Sustainable Homes in the Pioneer Valley: Old, New, and Available for All

I’ve already are low the derivative the University gallery this is the second in our series of speakers events connected to reading the valley and we’re delighted this it’s a growing concern here very exciting we will be able to offer you please pick up our brochure which was produced by The Gazette listing all of our future events future speaking events mcvicar you guest curator is si an interview it’s all in this wonderful booklet here so please pick up your copies before you leave I’m going to immediately turn this over to 2 Meg who as you know is the the heart the mind the hand the soul behind the whole exhibition we’ve been honored to work with her on this exhibition and she has been masterful in finding some brilliant speakers and this series is being videotaped so if any of you have missed the first in the upcoming you’re most welcome to contact us we’re not quite sure how will distribute but it’ll be on our website probably and then we could actually get anyone DVDs if you’d like to have copies for your own views so I’m going to turn this over to make to introduce our most distinguished speakers for the evening so thank you again for coming well this is wonderful to see such a great great packed audience we need a bigger room I think sorry about that we didn’t know it would be quite so popular but we’re thrilled to have you all tonight our speakers all approach residential design from a variety of ways with great inspiration and innovation but they all at the root of their work share common commitment towards building sustainable environmentally friendly buildings that are accessible to a wide range of people and of course this is what we desperately need as we move towards a more sustainable future our first speaker tonight is bang Veda he’s the chief architectural officer at free green which is a as you’ll hear more about that but anyway graduated from Cornell University with the masters of architecture degree in 2005 and co-founded the zero energy design or Zed as a design principle been focused on sustainable housing projects both in the US and abroad Ben’s interest in designing sustainable housing for developing nations has taken into a multitude of countries including Nigeria Dominica and Panama in 2006 he was asked to speak before the prime minister of Dominica about the possibility of using environmentally sensitive building with practices to revitalize the local economy he’s received an award from Autodesk for zens professional commitment to sustainability through the design of the built environment his work has appeared in notable publications such as architectural record popular mechanics and solar today he’s also made the television appearance on HGTV he’s patat in the architecture departments of

both Cornell and northeastern university currently and during his time as a visiting lecturer at Cornell he developed an original curriculum for teaching architecture students how to critically evaluate sustainable design strategies Ben has work to address social issues such as homelessness and environmental sustainability by integrating fundraising and coalition building techniques into architectural practices never one to shy away from danger he’s dedicated a period of time to living on the streets of Brooklyn documenting various aspects of the homeless condition this endeavor is part of an ongoing campaign to address some of the deficiencies of permanent shelters his experiences also inspired the documentary film a hole in the fence his work is also most recently been featured in a magazine and treehugger.com so without more ado all right well I’m gonna talk a little bit about free green today but before I do I’d like to be a little background about me and my partner’s about how we got started with our interest in sustainable design and our experiences with a residential design particular so currently there’s sort of two companies under one roof and one is free green and yellow one zero energy so I work with a variety of different disciplines I think in our office we have our condition architects we have MBAs engineers we have a couple econ majors I think and we all met while we are at Cornell University and we did the project called the Solar Decathlon this is the first house that we built it was a lot of fun we built it ourselves which was an interesting experience and all these sort of cool utopians ideas about sustainability the entire landscape was edible we had nutrition students work with the landscape architects and work with horticulture students and actually designed not just this sort of a garden but a whole meal plans of the garden provide food at different times of the year we did things like cool things like grass couches it produced enough electricity not just for the for the house but actually the power and electric car as well all the interior materials you know bamboo have all that kind of good stuff and so we have a lot of fun and we decided that we like working with each other so much that we should start a company so the the natural extension seem to be starting an architecture and engineering firm so this is one of our first big projects the house on the Cape it is this is the type of project that often gets published as grain and certainly it has a solar panels geothermal all the sort of bells and whistles that you would associate with a green design but it’s a 6,000 square foot second home for very well for people so we were in this sort of weird situation where I mean as a young design firm you’re not going to turn down a commission like this because it was it was great there was a lot of fun to design it but it really didn’t feel like we were really saving the world by designed a residential equivalent of a hydrogen-powered Hummer but nevertheless it was a we learned we got to experiment with some technologies we hadn’t worked with before in particular we got to see how affected geothermal can be as certain scales geothermal can be as certain scales you got to do a lot of and it led to publicity and more projects the more well reasoned project swim was only about 3,000 square feet we got to work with the you know more the sort of bullet points of green design you know the green roofs the solar panels the water collection all these sort of technical features did have become the sort of icons of sustainability I think yeah this was sort of we enjoyed it we have great clients but we sort of felt that like we weren’t really actually achieving the interest that we sort of brought us all together in the first place so we looked at it and we sort of did a survey of where D houses come from and we realized it well less than five percent of the homes built in the US and by far the single family home is the most common building type of America less than five percent of those homes have direct involvement with an architect so that even if we became the biggest and greatest green design residential architecture firm or really only affecting a small amount of people and if you look at the average cost of the of an architecture design home versus home sold on the market it’s so there’s a bit of a discrepancy so we were thinking about it more like well and we have done projects at a smaller scale but we tended to lose money on those ones and we said well what we really wanted to do is we just want to do good designs and just be able to give it to people that can’t afford it and so their goal became well how do we develop a business model around what we actually

want to do which is the nice thing about trying to start your own company and so as some of our best ideas always come from rear wall watching television and I think I was watching a lost and it’s like wow this production value is just incredible there’s explosions they have broken up airplanes if is huge cast it’s amazing that yes we pay our cable bills but this is a free entertainment and now of course that it’s not really free it’s paid through through product placement commercials and if you think about you know design well why can’t a designer has a billet II to influence product purchases so why can’t we use design as a form of advertising and rather than try to develop a prefabricated housing system when we develop a mass or mass publishing system to distribute design media to the people that are needed so that was the idea for free grain is that we let me make green designs and we publish them on the internet and people can download them for free and we make money by expecting of products into them now that was the original idea we still have a lot of that and we’ve become and the last started launch at about 18 months ago and since then we’ve become the largest supplier of home designs in the world we’ve had about 50,000 plans downloaded in the last year what makes ya so the exciting thing is the exciting thing is that that something that’s labeled as green can actually become mainstream so fast just by changing the way it’s actually distributed so these homes they aren’t they aren’t as well designed to be perfectly honest as our custom homes because we don’t know who’s going to build them but they’re sort of but about right now about thirty percent of all the the buildings in America come from stock plans from the same sort of format so most people would go to like eat plants com or houseclans calm and they pay a thousand bucks to buy a stop plan so this is like an example of one of our more popular ones at least in warmer climates so it was popular one in sort of the south west and you can take a virtual tour you can click and learn about the different products in it you can actually switch out different material pallets and things like that make your choices go all through the house look at all the different features you can learn about the different HVAC bugs but one of the most important things we did is that when we originally came with the idea people were like well how do we know your specking good products I mean how do we know these things are green well one of the things we learn how to do in college was how to use energy simulation software and this is becoming increasingly important in design today because everyone can say well to change these windows it’s going to save you save you on your utility bills you go all how much exactly how much well these days you can get those answers who get them in terms of dollars and cents so is what we did is that we don’t design anything in 2d everything we design would build in a 3d computer model and then we have our engineers actually simulate how that building would work in different climates to evaluate its energy performance once we do that we can sub out different products and see how any individual component whether it be switching the insulation from batt insulation to a spray foam would affect the homeowners dollar and cents utility bills so what we allow our users to do is that if they’d like to design that can download it and you can enter in your zip code and they’ll actually get this comparative energy performance data where they can compare the home if it’s built with the materials we recommend versus the ones that would just require basic building code so if your hire a builder and said build me a home don’t build it to sort of you know basic building code it will hopefully you know stand up and work the way it’s supposed to do but they’re probably not going to put any sort of extra features in unless you ask for them or pay them for it so this way you can actually see how these little investments in product upgrades will actually save you money each year these are some of our homes we have the modern ones we have traditional ones nearby our office this is a fun one we didn’t recently just when we got priced out actually at about I think this one was priced about 180,000 dollars and Massachusetts we get a lot of people to sort of want a sort of smaller modern homes because it’s hard to find those types on e plans in-house claims calm again you can sort of keep the tour and see what it looks like before it’s a build but what the reasons why when the other reasons why we think this way of working is really important and this is sort of a nice addition to our sort of a custom practice as well is that it’s very difficult for architects to fund research to the fund innovation I mean because most of their clients don’t want to take on that capital overhead costs and so this way of working where we’re sort of working with investors and 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sponsors allows us to actually spend time researching and teaching ourselves how to do design details a better work in a way that doesn’t become a particular burden to anyone of our individual clients which I think of almost any practice the archetypical that he was a rare opportunity so you can actually download the construction documents in addition to prospective homeowners we get a lot of developers and small builders downloading them as well whatever actually our largest downloaders of the actual sort of cad files the digital files is other architects which use our details which is great it’s sort of a viral ready to spread a breath design so we’ll build this whole database of different design details and we love that we have our a business model that actually incentivizes us to share our work it’s really funny that you know when we’re doing custom design you tend to want to poured your your work you don’t want to show it you want anyone else to steal your drawing sense because it gives them a competitive advantage and it makes sense from a business perspective to do that but if you’re all trying to help design green buildings it from an ethical standpoint you want to share your ideas you want other architects to build good buildings too and so the exciting things is that we actually found a financial incentive where our advertisers they love it if we share details if we show a rain screen detail with spray foam insulation and a staggered stud system they love to other architects out looking and seeing it and being exposed to those products and combinations that work really well in different climates that being said i should also note that all of our design details are all third-party approved so we hired the building science corporation to verify and make sure that we’re living up to everything that we say we’re doing another question did we or did we get quite often was it was a bit of a tricky point for us and said well a tricky point for us is that well green design I mean how do you deal with passive solar how to deal with orientation these buildings need to be cited to specific conditions in the site and so we have a lot of sort of mod or documents in our drawing sets similar to these so we start divided up the US and different zones and builders can see that if you’re in one of those zones you should put shading devices on the appropriate of facades and we’ll give like a little sizing chart relative to each one of those zones so they can actually get dimensional information and size them very quickly and we’ve also found that a yes I thought there was one more I found that this is actually really critical for making sure things happen a lot of decisions actually happened right on the field and they don’t necessarily always call the architect to check in so the more you can actually put the information directly into the drawing sets which is sitting in the back of the truck the better we found the results are one other thing which I left out that slide is that we also include a lead checklist not the biggest fan of lead myself especially when it comes to residential but there’s a lot of interest in a consumer interest in it and so we put this sort of checklist so people can actually work with the Builder and when they talk about their different material choices and through it they can actually see how the choices they’re making affect their sort of lead score that’s been pretty popular as well and has actually been used as a template by the National Home Builders Association for their green standards I think that’s about it Wow okay well moving on Thank You Ben that was fantastic really interesting um our next speaker is Rain Man she is an associate professor of architecture in the department of architecture and design here at UMass where she’s been teaching since 1995 and was awarded tenure in 2001 she’s a Harvard Graduate School of Design educated architect whose award winning projects include the women’s rights National Historical Park the MIT Media Lab brain opera and the salamander restaurant in Boston as a principal of our case to do architecture she received a progressive architecture young architects award in 1993 for the innovative nature of her practice and she continues to work with a variety of new materials and unusual design applications over the years she has taught a variety of courses here from architecture and interior design studios to furniture design and advanced design theory as the architecture program development committee chair she’s led the effort to establish the masters of architecture degree here at the University and to just develop substantial and program innovations she’s served on a variety of local and national boards and is an active member of aia and you can see designs for her

home and another home she’s designed here in the exhibition so overt array okay thank you very much so still pondering Ben’s wonderful talk you soon wow I’m very inspired I’m talking tonight about two houses that I’ve been working on recently and i would say that i’m sort of working my way towards green and trying to sort of think about what it is to be building more sustainably and again this whole question of the custom-house to a house that can reach a broader public i think is present on my mind and I just happen to have these two houses one is actually for myself and my family we’re here and then a client who happened to ask me to just around the same time but I was embarking on this project for meiosis my own family to do a house for them and so it’s been interesting to follow a kind of parallel between a ton of experimental nature of the house the introvert is me actually enters it and then the extrovert house which is for the client and because as it turns out the programs are almost identical the sizes of the houses are almost identical and then there’s certain other key aspects though that are different so it would prove to be kind of a useful comparative set of circumstances so the reason I call the first one the extrovert is it’s really about a house that has a big view and the introvert is really about a house it has a is really based on an internal view you know you see a lot of glass there but I’ll see but you’ll see what I mean in a second so just to you know so straightforwardly go through the projects one the extra house sits high on a hill of quiet went out of his way to he wanted a view of Mount Greylock leave it or not prim leverage so and he actually does it’s like things would right over there somewhere like this so that means a big view in this in that orientation also means a big wind name’s a big west facing view which we went we quibble about quite a bit but good also good solar exposure so what you basically see his hands Hill is a kind of quick opposable roof strategy which I seem to keep repeating which is a roof that kind of opens up runs a long way of a on the house and incorrectly I’m always running my seems to be running my axes north-south which I know is like a no-no but I get my eye open up to the south and then you seem to have these roofs that are now running north to the location for solar panels and things like that so we did do my very helpful assistant at Sutter has been helping a lot of solar solar calculations so some idea so I think you’ve probably seen the images from the show this kind of scissor house with Big West leasing you know high up on the hill but just to give you a general idea and I apologize for the the rabbit gives you a certain palette of landscape that looks very unknowing ‘land with we have so to me a lot of the question of what would we and I think in certain ways you know we’ve perfected the standard house we can make it fairly energy-efficient you know they may be bigger than they should be but so my question is what do we want to do that’s then different we’re going to push the envelope and I really not that interested in doing a lot of fancy moves and although my contractors might argue otherwise but you know to me the question is what is it about lifestyle that we’re looking at the new and how is it that we can use a new house to enable people to engage with connecting with nature connecting with kind of cycles of life more readily in a house so that was something that I was interested in my house and then in with this client they were also very much interested and so you see certain features you know peeping at both houses for instance a kind of root cellar where you know Jesus wines vegetables are then easily stored the heat recovery ventilator this is how I’m just showing lower level and upper level disturbs then I’ll move to the

next level these are just some of the views so this is a very simple house layout really very much more logical than mine on my dad so big kitchen that opens onto a son space the subspace is something that in a certain sense is not the most efficient way to use solar energy but is probably the one that offers the most amenity in terms of a actual space that you isolate from the rest the rest of the house but offers you the ability to heat it up to then use that warm air to bring into the house or to give you that kind of very wide open indoor/outdoor feeling in the summertime so although it becomes an extra expense because you’re basically especially with this code the way the codes work here you’re paying for a double layer of glazing sorry my mask uses you know this becomes a key kind of element of space in that house so trying to integrate we see a few things here low inning triple great glazed glass on that west wall we are trying to use some LED lighting stew as a basically conventional fireplace but with a glass enclosure and then we’ll be using a high-density cellulose but basically something that’s sort of the main idea that house is that as as it opens then to the south to collect Sun or bring the rising and open up towards the garden so that you’ll have this very easy transition from working in the garden to taking your vegetables into the house and so on it’s really about that kind of aspect of lifestyle I guess in this case just not very long so and I assume they’re going to have some windows shady I don’t know if they’re here tonight but yeah there you know me some issues with that but you can only win so many things but so so this good this gives you some with diagrams of my kind of warm passive or the winter mode of warm air moving through and some space used selectively they calculated heat loss of 34,000 BTU so we worried about a half to a third of a normal load but it’s there is still some load there still summer mode I think we’d be grabbing of air that comes through the lower entry and sort of works its way up to the high high side of the house so a natural ventilation should be provided so moving to the introverted house warehouse this was actually a project where we decided by six acres of property which could have five lots on it so it happens to be a much more much less about a big view it’s much more wind sheltered because it’s part of an old sand quarry and it also it has its own tree border as a consequence but in the midst of that tree border was pretty good solar exposure so and I’ve worked out a number of fairly complicated houses i did and did do a fairly large a very green house before this and I decided that again sort of like then you know yeah it’s great we’re saving you know their heating bills 1500 a season but I also sort of feel like maybe I’m getting old but that I’d like to be able to just be able to visualize an entire house in my head and that can’t be more complicated than that so I realized that as i worked on this house it was like a piece of worrying dominique where I just wanted to be like a simple few folds and that was it so so I got very involved in trying to make a kind of a very regular although that’s a regular plan so it’s the old what’s called the old Dickinson pit I don’t know if it’s related to Emily Dickinson’s family minutes if it’s really a sand orient and I guess I think a lot of I think I’m probably kind of Madrid daydreamer because I have a lot of images of had known as a permaculture landscapes landscapes of Japan and that’s sort of the vision I had of this site course the reality is it’s a big sand pit yeah so now we’re hoping that we can transform that would be a lifetime project for Oakland so so we had as a comment driveway that we brought it takes took a year and a half to work it through amherst sony to get it approved for various things we had as many complications a long way but we probably got approved so we have what he has four houses and then a fifth lot which my colleague tapping Lou gosh is designed a

house were there so we’re very excited when it was finally approved and they’ve been doing the site work is now basically complete is that on you suppose it’s free yes east pleasant street yeah so if you see like this giant big Santa yeah Mike I know the earth is getting raised over there with the moving sand around so we do eventually want to basically like they might sort of arrayed the houses along I try to pull the driveway kind of along the north so this is nice steep embankment with that we can plant and then a sort of meadow with a infiltration basin so we can do some let’s capture the water on the site and we actually also do serve we’re serving the town storm water outflow property as well we hope eventually to plant wild berry bushes and chestnut trees again the side of the hosel roof we’re getting I’d we actually ended up with the most shaded site sacrifice that we have biggest most interesting bit of land at the end bear enough to I think calculate about five hundred dollars in savings and water so the introvert aspect of this house is and they need probably most luxurious aspect is that it has a retractable screen roof courtyard at the heart of it so I think again with my sort of pan-asian sort of roots so thinking about the fact that there’s so many so much time of year that we could be outdoors but we’re kind of not because it’s either buggy or a little bit rainy on the way cold and that this kind of space I mean there’s a tradition of porch spaces but to really have a porch or kind of green space at the heart of the house seemed to be something that I really wanted to try to achieve which is a tricky business because of course the Realtors don’t regard your you know core using Court of your house for porch is a particularly advantageous real estate the idea but so that I and when my husband Thursday wanted to try to have a lemon tree in the heart of the house so medicines so requirement so I’m using a product where solution sliding doors that can kind of retract all along that inner face of the house these are relatively high performance windows performance but and so being my own client if sense is is a kind of laboratory because I’ve thought about for years all the kind of real realities of houses which is the stuff the junk the during dogs three shoes and this is what houses are matter we can make them look beautiful but in fact you know what they have to serve is the stream of the intense constant activity of our lives both i and my husband had to work at the house as well so it’s not only a sleep space family space but work space as well for all of us so sort of trying to figure out some simple way to manage that and how house how big should have some B’s I could manage that is really your the question so here again the house is about 3,600 squeaking including including a supplemental apartment which we did give approval for it was in essence is a little supplemental Department on the lower floor here and then again the root cellar type space we did make plans for an elevator so that we wanted to make sure that that’s planned in from the gang build is we needed we have some of the features of a solar thermal high affinity boilers again the supplemental apartment i think is something that people are pretty keen on as a way of being an extended reach of who they can accommodate so these are the sorts of images that sort of run through my head that is trying to capture in this house again sort of the idea of the courtyard at the heart here with its little lemon tree it’s a masonry heater that is sort of off that space the greenhouse Japanese bath that you can do your seedlings and do your planting there he is I thought about a lot about laundry and so this idea of this multi utilitarian sort of green and basically from a thermal point of view this is the kind of warm wet space that then if you can use that selectively to take that air into the house this is the kind of

dry or wet space of the Sun space that can take warm air into the rest of the house and I love the masonry has to actually be like a hole in the floor with the fireplace but of course the code doesn’t go out then this is sort of you about the house that sorry it’s kind of remedy because the masonry hearth looks like it did you see the bunker something that it sorry madam but this is idea of the space then the timber is harvested locally at some great trouble a lot of the mills are shutting down now he’s local red pine this is from llevaron that kind of got peeled we cut beams turns out of course it’s not it’s really relatively strong wood and very beautiful but also required some additional structural work so in the end I don’t think it’s saving any money it just makes us feel wonderful I mean we’re also going to be using at the tail well managed L which I recently heard that someone’s developed a process to reduce the price of mint eighty percent and I’m not sure I’m going to be able to beneficiary event savings but it’s relatively expensive but it does give you and the legend r20 wall it’s a nice day lower than that but under done with all the actual calculations but it does give you a good day lighting so you have have light without the heat it’s very interesting to stand next to Nana jalaw you don’t feel the heat of the Sun coming through it so hence on our east and west walls were able to tolerate that and and actually see you part of the idea is that we are a very book intensive family and I don’t have a bookcase system but actually sort of partially goes over some of this so we’re seeing it as a kind of filtration of light through our stuff if here’s this the upper floor level so kind of the idea of these sort of two bedrooms perched above the courtyard space and I think a very romantic view life is the winter modes using the Sun space you selectively so masonry heater about third 28,000 calculate heat loss without accounting for the solar and masonry heater so we do expect a fairly high yield on these solar hot water panels summer of course that courtyard gives you a pretty nice stack other couple things that are sort of innovations risky innovations really is this is a sandy site so I thought it might be appropriate for what’s called a frost protected shallow foundation pretty nervous about it but it seems to be going well it’s actually far more work actually than doing a regular foundation because people know how to do regular foundations but you do glue use somewhat less concrete pieces but it actually is suitable for this with a typical timber frame structure so we’re also using a fiber cement they sip which is also not very widely known but it offers some very significant performance I hadn’t tested umass still a little nervous about it but it’ll be interesting to see how and I very much look forward to having an opportunity to use materials like this if I if I think they work for other kinds of houses maybe not quite so eccentric is that anyway this is like painting by my daughter that some people know that my husband wrote this book called 1491 which does is under pinning the foundations of his house for sure that’s our new dog so thank you very much thank you ready that was fabulous I always liked learning about race house because it and that developed the idea of a development because it goes up right next to Owen drive which is the epitome of the sort of development we’d like to shy away from not if you live in Nome and drive it’s maybe not the planning board but it’s perhaps not all that great um we were going to have four speakers tonight but unless she’s out there lurking somewhere we seem to have lost one so we’re late looking on to our third and final speaker brusque oldham it was the principal architect of Coleman and Hartman architects here in Amherst he graduated with a Bachelor and architecture in 1969 from the University of Melbourne and for the following four years worked as an architect in that

city he emigrated in 1982 to the US and completed his m.ed program at the Yale University’s School of Architecture since 1989 he has run his own architectural practice here in Amherst which is dedicated to producing high quality high performance buildings for clients who really care about producing good enduring architecture since 1989 he’s led the effort to establish cohousing as a viable housing option here in the Northeast including founding the Northeast cohousing quarterly which is now part of the National cohousing Journal he’s been an active member in the Northeast sustainable energy association or nessie which just ended today and that’s why he’s fortunately here and he’s been a member of Nessie’s board of directors for nine years and was chair of the board for three of those years he’s three times been chair of its influential building energy conference in 2000 he received its distinguished service award he’s a member of the town of Amherst planning board for seven years which is really quite something thank you and from 1995 starting in nineteen ninety five and was a co-founding chair of the town’s comprehensive planning committee he’s been an active member in Governor Deval Patrick zero net energy building task force and continues as a member of the mass zero net energy building Advisory Council he’s been a member of the American Institute of Architects since 1999 and in February 2010 just last month was elected as a fellow and I must say he’s been one of those architects in preparing greening the valley who’s you know he’s worked tirelessly at this at these efforts towards sound environmentally friendly buildings for decades and so it’s with great thanks that I introduced booth cold try and stand over here and if the speaker doesn’t feed right back and blass the front row to the back row I’ll stay here so far so good I do was fascinated been with the energy imagination and audacity of what you put together I I just come as make said from the building energy conference than se building energy conference which is a thirty-five-year-old event that is more through the ages to discuss all the stuff in various ways and I spent a good part of the last two days with the current soul of the kaplan team from cornell that was also from ontario and also from boston so that that initiative which happens every two years on the Washington Mall and basically makes the Smithsonian Institute the the second order interest on the mall for a couple of weeks has been producing a rash of young design professionals which are really you know about to kick the ass of people like me and you can kind of see the evidence of that earlier I’m looking at this slide here and I’m noticing that it’s relevant magnificently vertically distorted from what I see on my screen so if anyone wonders why inclined to build chimneys which are hugely tall it’s my wondering the same thing so so I I approached this a little differently make you sent a question sheet around line I’m not usually very obedient but this time I i thought well those are interesting questions so make had three questions and I took them and I put them and i thought i would spend a moment on each of the questions and see where that gets and so this is a slightly different approach than each of the other two which i guess is ok maybe if i hold this a little closer you can hear me so if ray is going to push the buttons thank you Ray that will be great if you just push the button so this was the first question what’s the most effective means of changing the residential status quo and I looked at that and I said I have no clue so so let’s think about it though because that’s what meg wants us to do she doesn’t expect the answers she just wants us to think about it and so ray if you push again so I asked myself what is the residential status quo because I think you really need to know that before you can even begin to answer the question and these were the three and anybody who wants to add five four and six would be bad but I thought that from our point of view I’m in Australian so it’s pretty much what I grew up with as well in Australia it’s a dispersed detached single-family units that’s predominantly what we’ve been doing for the greater part of the lot of 100 years really came into its own after that well well let’s not go into that too far that’s what I see is number one

descriptor number two descript it no particular order a blissful disregard for the cost of energy and and lots else but really a blissful disregard i mean we have been pumping energy through this economy based on capital investment and drawing down capital fossil fuels for a good long while so long that we have not really paid much attention to it and now we could get into a discussion that could be informed by these energy anthropologists and so forth about what happens and it seems to be just an automatic thing but if you pump a lot of energy through the system you get it a basically a sociological or a social impact of that and the social impact of that is essentially the first descriptor there’ll even number three under-investing in durability and thermal integrity and i think thats related to because when you have a large energy thurs of a system you don’t really care about keeping things you are really organized around replacing things so far from this is a claim that I made which I guess I could depend if Bush far from buildings being too expensive particularly in this country I wouldn’t argue that they are too cheap we don’t spend enough on them and we don’t expect them to last long enough and always wondering how far to take this since i’ll just make that assertion for the moment those three things and I thought okay three is enough I don’t need to go any further so I stopped at three but you don’t have to so that’s what I’m thinking about is the residential status quo so want to be changing and how I be changing so ready to push again as Meg mentioned I’ve had a lot to do and so is my wife who’s here because she’s had to put up with me on this but in fact hasn’t really driven this as well cohousing in this country happened because a number of people thought it was possible and used the Danish model Pine Street cohousing which is actually a neighbor of yours will be a neighbor when you arrive that we’re already a neighbor and you will be soon is a clustered community it’s not a formally it’s not really a co housing community going to strict definition because we don’t have the shared common space in there but that’s a kind of response cohousing has really grown quite a lot in this country it’s a it’s an intensive so it’s an intentional investment in creating community and it does so on the mechanism of shared common space shared common space smaller units if you want to share the common space which is not an art is not a bonus space as part of your investment you know your house is a little bit smaller you put some of that house into a common house that’s your house you really need to be able to get to it under a fairly rigorous set of standard conditions which is to say when you’re three when it’s dark when it’s icy and snowy pretty high access standard and then access band that pushes the parking and the cars and everything to the periphery in the in the in the ideal model and you get a much more concentrated minimized footprint low impact inside would be paid half the cost the site work that we ordinarily would have paid on this by collab by condensing everything and going about it in this way so cohousing and there are probably a couple of hundred of these across the country now and this kind of approach connected multi-family housing is one way in which speaking from my experience and what I have done and people around me would be pushed to change the status quo and next one please this is the similar effort I don’t live in this one what one thing only needed one place once more or less so this is in Northampton but it’s another one in the area and it’s a slightly larger community and one that way quite proud of it’s one of few awards and I particularly like the colors which it never is vibrant and interesting in slides as they are in real life and I really like the way this community in search of its character of expressing itself really trusted the architect with leadership on color as opposed to trying to do it by consensus the one thing they didn’t try to do by consensus god blessing because if they had it would look really not very nice so it’s a lovely place for a lot of reasons not least of which they took a chance on on the palate and the socks and the trousers of the jacket of the architect another piece is reusing old buildings reimagining reusing remodeling repurposing existing buildings as a lot of them some of them are quite large some of them have half of users or had users that are no longer

than really viable so we think about repurposing them and this is a mill building that we’re doing and part of the repurposing here was to the the challenge was to make this for families a lot of mill buildings residential conversions of mill buildings are for double income no income knowing kind of double kids no internet was it doubled income no kids right hangs and laughs and studios and worth live and all of that this is where young kids and so forth in the sense was how do you create community in this places and we had this idea that if we were to based on our cohousing experience if you can create community on the horizontal so we thought that we could consolidate circulation on on one floor by having townhouses inside the the flat inside the mills and bringing the light down through and we created daylight models to understand my how this would happen it would be a way of using a mill building in a way for housing that hadn’t been used before and it didn’t we haven’t been able to make that happen for various reasons but the idea was very exciting to our clients and they let that go very reluctantly next one this is echo hill the way I reimagined that some years ago as a productive community the sense was the question was you’ve got echo hill a very successful planned unit community in amis from some years ago one of the very first actually in the country if you change one program requirement which was to provide the needs of food energy and water from the site direct how would that change the design what would you do differently if you change that one rather significant program requirement and so this is a drawing this is a reimagine a shin of what that what echo hill would look like improves housing the same number of people a little different thing we won’t go into it it’s just a nice image I like it and that’s a way in which we were thinking about changing the status code red witch the number two was what what do we think order i think or the most promising trends actually you evoke you said what’s the most promising trend i think that’s wonderful what’s the most promising trend and i could make in residential design so anyway maybe i should have said what are the most promising but that’s the question that was posed and and so I thought well how about a promising trend or two because I didn’t want to have to choose necessarily so I’m next this is what we’ve done in cohousing but this is a micro trend I guess but it no I’m only one guy and this is what I’m thinking about and the idea was we build houses we put let’s say we build a house for two hundred thousand dollars is probably twelve thousand dollars 15 whatever a mechanical system in that house furnaces and stuff in the basement of the throbbing away down there and they’re directing air typically awarded around the house trying to make the whole house the same temperature all the time the question was and for that we have rather meager wall thicknesses they’re not terribly well done how much could we shift the investment from taking the money out of the furnace turning it from a system of ducks and everything to just a point source space heater so we changed the red here to a lot less red there we changed the budget from I didn’t have 12,000 down to 2,000 so we’ve got eight or ten thousand dollars that we can spend on making the walls ticket making the insulation better making the envelope tighter making the windows better and we can take the load down maybe forty percent thirty percent forty percent that’s a trend we’ve managed to start at rocky hill and then other houses we’ve done now we’ve made been much more successful based on the monitored experience of those third of the people that rocky hill that committed to that strategy right another trend i think in residential is just simply spending more on making the enclosure better energy is not going to get less expensive it’s also gonna not going to get more plentiful I think my in my head in my world it’s a we have volatility in our future and availability issues so designing our buildings for the post petroleum economy is really what it should be about I think that’s 20 years off buildings we’re designing a hundred years old they’re going to spend eighty percent of their life in the post petroleum economy as an architect I think it’s incumbent upon us for me to us and answer the question how is this building that I’m

doing now going to survive in a in a vastly different resource economy Andrey I think I’m going to push through this these are some geeky slides but basically it there are studies and things that indicate that anybody who thinks about this empirically quantitatively and thorough and extensively comes to that conclusion that we are under investing in our building enclosures by a considerable amount we could double or triple or quadruple the thermal integrity of our building envelopes at least in small presidentials not to quite the same in commercial that we’re talking small houses here at least I am so we’ll pass on that and I think we’ll one this is just to show you what’s going on here in the world of average housing I don’t need to get into the units but we are typically using that much a lot of energy if we move down the tract of best practice and then to exceptional you can see that there’s a four or five to 16 to 1 depending on which part of the graph you want to compare so there’s a huge potential here and if we think that out we are currently a five planets or living a society and we need to get down or one planet living which is to say our share you know we’ve only got one planet so we should have our share of that we need about a five-fold factor five transformation across the board well the fact is that best practices is there if everything was done the way the best houses are done from a building standpoint we wouldn’t have anything like the problem that we had that we are contending with at the moment Greg please let’s go that’s way too yes I don’t want to talk about that tonight well it’s basically saying it’s essentially saying that there’s a big difference between twenty-five percent savings on things and seventy-five percent savings on things one is useful the other is transformational and if you think about the percentages and remember what you were taught in what I was taught of the u2 in grade school you can figure out what it’s all about but it’s a big difference how does this approach fit within the broad context of sustainability all right I think about this and I think I’m going to push hugs and pick through this cuz I’ve already taken a little more than I expected to but I think about this in terms of what does it take for us to really support ourselves and looking back through time not too far and I can do this for me because I remember what it was like to live in Europe in the 1960s and 70s and the and the level of energy that is maybe the next slide will put the red line back in yeah this is about a 70 thousand killa bt 2 per day per person budget and the u.s. is way up here if we would have slide ourselves way back we wouldn’t be going back to a dark age we’d be going back to a place we can easily imagine so these two thousand watts society one planet living 7,000 whatever these metrics are that describe an aspiration for a lower energy society which is what I think we how we begin the thought and thinking about sustainability is it gets us to a place where it’s not hard to imagine because we are already in our recent history there in certain places in the world places we visit right I think I’ll just let that sink in a little bit it’s the same kind of thing just differently say them that graphically and I’ve got one or two more i think i did a little exercise just to figure out if we wanted to support ourselves of that little how much per how much pv would it take I just use P because I it’s much easier than calculating how much these other renewable options would take and it’s next slide I think I figured that it would take about 1,500 square bed and pv for each person or let’s say four or five thousand squeak square feet of a PV array per household to run this is run society at that level you mean that’s runs the trains run the mills run the military because of course hopefully but that stage would be like and or and they won’t be much and so that’s a big big

area but but is that too is that too horrible or impossible to imagine that was the question a lot of people have done these kind of exercises and I thought I want to do it for myself just so that I would have a real feel for it it’s really a good idea for those that are in the business of this to think this through in your own terms and then then you’ll be able to be critical of the broad array of data and information and stuff and thinking that’s out there and I did I think that the next slide is the slide of the MU my house which is one of the houses that are out there but this is a house that attempts to be a zero energy house and the conversation about zero energy houses is an interesting one too but we are engaged in thinking about what the relevance of zero energy houses is how does it fit into the future of society and so forth is it justly a preoccupation by some some highly motivated working people or is it really a part of our future I tend to think it’s a part of our future it might not be all of our future but I do think it’s a part of our future and I won’t go further than thank you very much well the happy news is thank you Bruce that was wonderful our fourth person arrived here ugly and stuff afraid you got lost or something but anyway we’re very glad to introduce more McCarthy she is the co-founder and vice president of sales and marketing for Blu homes which is a private company dedicated to providing healthy affordable and eco-friendly houses her experience Mora has co-founded blue homes because of a deep interest in reducing the carbon footprint of american homes much like bruce and ben and ray and making a home or a full home buying more fun and convenient experience more has several years experience as a venture capital investor at ironwood equity including experience as an investor in the prefab homes industry she’s a board member of the capital network a non-profit focusing on providing mentorship and financing to startup entrepreneurs and is aboard observer on Isis the leading provider of active apparel focused orlith solely on women she’s a member of the US Green Building Council and renewable energy business network and has served as a judge for the MIT enterprise form and ignite clean energy competition blue Holmes was recently also featured on treehugger calm and just before I forget if you are here for aia credits don’t forget to see Lauren star in the back all right how we doing almost there sorry about this well done you can talk from the area’s sit down is it too huh I got lost in Northampton I guess I should have realized this was in immersed I swear if you google the Fine Arts Center it goes architecture yep ok okay I’m going to flip flop a little bit between some files that actually show some of our technology and I know been at least really well it’s nice to be on the panel I’m sorry for my ridiculous lateness let’s see so i guess i will do um so it’s really nice to be out here we have a lot of interest in Northampton because it’s an obvious focus here on healthy living green building I have a lot less of a technical presentation from from a data standpoint but I do have a lot of examples of the technology that we use at Blu homes um let’s just see what we have here i am going to i think i’m going to run through a couple of these topics and then get quickly into our technology and what we’re doing in an innovative way so that you can ask questions and i’m sure you’ve up and I guess you’ve endured for an hour so I

want to not take too much time um blue homes is a prefabricated home company we do not do mobile homes we own to HUD code homes would do very beautiful and high quality green homes that are built off-site in the factory obviously the traditional prefab word or you know has been depends on whether you’re over the past 30 years modular homes in 2006 there were 80 companies and 200 factories they did forty thousand homes a year modular homes are inherently generally greener because they’re built off-site in the factory there’s a lot less waste there’s plenty of studies to show that and literally it’s something directionally like eighty percent less waste by building out in a factory which is a big Pro building in the traditional modular way modular homes are not manufactured there modular homes are built to site build code and they tend to be green although they have been slow to adopt green technologies and products over the over the past thirty years they really started with more of a Henry Ford kind of mentality and then we have panelized in timber post-and-beam houses which are very beautiful they’re also part of the prefab family the pros are that you can do really beautiful custom homes and many of these were products Empyrean deckhouse acorn homes that bini went out of business last year they’re fabulous company founded by MIT people back in the 50s Benson would Holmes great company up in New Hampshire several different log home companies in Linda all homes the downside of this type of prefab is that it actually takes pretty long time and the average time from beginning a project to end for example at Empyrean was 600 days which we know because we’ve hired about five of their staff so what I wanted to sort of discuss generally where you know what why is prefab green where is prefab going and I and give you sort of a basis for what kind of technology we’re doing and why it actually is going to improve the greenness of the housing stock that we build and hopefully long-term the housing stock in the US the in general I think in the past prefab homes were built for the convenience of the factory builders so they were built in modules that were sort of a plug and chug and shoot him through and then the answer was as soon as they leave the factory door hopefully the home builder can figure out how to put them together and assemble them there’s quite a bit of site work I think the sort of next generation of homes that are built off-site and in this green way are going to be built to optimize and reduce the site work and built for more long-term durability the site work component of building any kind of prefabricated home is the slowest portion the factory portion is always the fastest but in many cases factories were built to really reduce reduce the pain for the factory and increase it for the builder I’m really relevant to this talk is that you know that in the past factory built housing procured very cheap materials it was a labor substitution opportunity for people in Greenwich Connecticut to buy homes that were built in western Pennsylvania where labor rates are cheaper and moved them into more wealthy cities where the general contracting was less expensive however as a side note if you look at any Scandinavian country we have a couple Scandinavian people on our staff prefabricated homes have been done for decades and they are absolutely very green they’re much more controllable from a building standpoint you reduce the mold and the factory that you incur and you produce a very much healthier product so we’re sort of turn in the u.s. trying to move the perception about homes that are built in factories from cheap materials they’re low quality to you know more modern eco-friendly materials thirdly the new many generations both the sort of I’d say the baby boomer baby boomer retirement generation generations of people that are just coming out of college are all looking for ways to understand the use the energy use of their homes which is something that opens company does really well and also understand you know what the materials are in their homes and have a chance to feel like they are applying materials in their homes and choosing them so there’s a big content creation trend happening people want to digitally visualize their home and

customize it and lastly you know they’re the traditional prefab still took many months to build and I think that our goal is to absolutely reduce the site work which reduces the trips back and forth on site it reduces the waste that you have from products on site and is ultimately an easier experience for clients these are examples of our houses in the factory and houses digitally visualized I think the sort of overall philosophy that we’ve had as a company and around building a more green way is to make homes more deployable more easily shippable we ship also modules that can fold out to be much wider there’s been a traditional perception around prefabricated homes that they’re very narrow and trailer like so our homes have used this folding technology where they ship more narrowly and unfold and which I’ll show you we want to absolutely reduce the site work so we do more work in the factory which is less efficient in the factory but we increase efficiency on site and the radius of our factories is much bigger we can ship to Los Angeles which we’ve done for five or six thousand dollars per module and ultimately fewer shipments reduce pollution and the steel and wood hybrid frame that we use to do all this folding has a whole pile of benefits particularly around earthquakes I think that I feel like I’ve been focusing a lot on the kind of our company the technology and prefab but all of this is to move the dial and move our housing stock in the u.s. away from developer built homes that are McMansion style housing to homes that are smaller and more in line with Susan susana kind of small as better homes and it happens to be the case that homes that are built in factories in built off-site have a unique advantage for being more green and for you know procuring materials that are green materials in a more efficient way installing things like closed cell spray foam in the homes in a more automated way and so all of this technology that we’re doing is so that we can become a bigger more scalable company and therefore have more impact on the green on the green or housing stock in u.s this is an example of our folding technology and I just show this because it’s I use the term folding technology really lightly and I think it gets confusing because it’s hard to imagine what it is but this is an eight and a half foot wide module and it unfolds we can literally ship this to the Caribbean this is the steel frame and that’s how it fits together so we can do pitched roofs we’re doing a much higher pitch roof actually now that will fit in places like Vermont and you know we basically everything is literally hinged so we have a bunch of patents pending on this this building science I’ll stop doing this I just can’t stop so the promise in premise of prefab is convenient healthy healthy equals green no green healthy stylish homes that are built quickly this is a picture of the Michelle Kaufman glide house which is a company we acquired last year and she’s fabulous she’s an amazing green designer and we really are big effort with her products is to try to make them more deployables because if you have beautiful expensive homes you’re not going to move the dial and reducing carbon emissions in the world I guess I’d say people want this people want to be able to research online they want to be able to customize themselves they care a lot about healthy green choices now it’s you know the same thing that makes us by whole foods you know which you know we weren’t doing 15 years ago is the same set of macro trends that are making people more thoughtful about their homes and that includes lighting in the homes beauty I can go on and on we have thousands of slides about this stuff but I think overall you know making a beautiful home that is fast that people can visualize and where the company that you’re buying it from is the company that is both building it shipping it and installing it is a big that I think focus of ours and I think it’s what’s going to make prefab more workable in the US so small you know interiors that feel large this is an interior picture of the MK lotus which is a small unit there’s just little elements like you know slightly angular walls she used a product called Nana walls in her houses a lot which are very

beautiful but expensive folding doors and people want to be able to customize so you know this is these are some examples of you know when you’re building cars online and you can actually now go and figure out where you want the seats and your minivan to be set in the same way you can customize your shoes now online you can literally get the colors you want get your name put on it get it shipped you and these are your more mccarthy nike shoes um so I wanted to show a couple things and then I’ll then I’ll stop that give you a slightly more real sense of what we do that it’s green and innovative so let me do one thing here we haven’t launched this it pink slip to the mail my designers might have cut me off I can I can show you something else oh that works so this is a little slow right now we have not released this yet but this is our origin which is a very small unit this is meant as an ancillary structure a secondary home little Cabana and what we’re trying to do is to allow people to literally go in and choose what size they want again this is very preliminary that are real version that we’re going to launch is in 3d it’s way cooler but um for now it literally allows you to see what with what it costs to build the house and it literally allows you to play around with the floor plans so you can add different kinds of bathrooms you can kind of build your floor plan and build the cost of the plan on the left hand side you can see what’s happening to the cost of product go here you can add walls cabinet dividers you know make a separate bedroom this is our smallest version but we are relaunching we’re going to launch the actual real version of this in I think end of April but what I wanted to show you a little bit was some of the finishes so what we tried to do here is to give people on we kind of have an 8020 rule we do not do we always use closed-cell spray foam we always do high-efficiency HVAC and we always use high quality windows that are not going to allow you know their you value directionally you value point three or lower but we want to let people be able to afford these products so we have really eco-friendly cabinetry go to one mean here eco urban cabinetry is very high quality super green it is more expensive so we are we are tending to use super energy efficient appliances were typically just using whirlpool appliances we like whirlpool as a company they’ve tried to do some work with the cradle to cradle program and we like things like paper stone countertops but these are optional choices if someone wants to go in and see you know literally what kind of faucet i’m going to have or countertop you can kind of dive in and look we we are using a fair number fair amount of ikea products we are also trying to allow people to visualize and see which green elements they want on their home and i think there’s just a long I think that in order to really move the dial on carbon emissions in the world you need to start one needs to start developing products that will be adopted at some point by a bigger market so I think we have you know we did we built eight homes last year actually somewhere small commercial units we expect to do about 25 or 30 this year with about 40 sales and hopefully double that in the future but we’ve gotten a lot of feedback from people who want to be off the grid and we want to make it easy for folks to

look and see what the cost is of some of these kinds of products green roofs again this is kind of a beta so we put some things in here this is a picture of the MK Lotus sitting in San Francisco has a green roof has solar panels embedded on the roof here it’s got a pile of really cool features ipod controllers on the inside because the same people that want to do things bring also like you know often like some techy fun stuff so the point is that you can go online design your home and you know get a PDF that shows oh maybe I won’t feel the shoulder PDF but ultimately you get to just okay so the PDF is not working here but at the end in the wrap-up session you can kind of see the homes the full pricing and all the specifications that you’ve chosen for your product if you’re not someone who’s online all the time and who does this you know comfortable doing it we have clients in all the time we had a client in today who doesn’t have internet access but she’s built a straw bale home so she’s a genius when it comes to comes to building green she really cares about it and we went in and showed her a 3d model of the house that she’s buying showed her every feature she loves you know Susan susana and she’s the kind of client that we have a lot so we want to make this sort of easy for everyone the only other thing that I’ll show and I don’t know if there’s Google Earth on this and I’m probably way over my time I’ll stop but basically you know we we also try to allow people to get a really good sense of the prompt their product on on a site and to visualize it in 3d so this is a few of our origins I won’t go into it though but if anyone wants to talk to me afterward I’d be happy to well it’s been fabulous and thank you so much I’m so glad you made it from Northampton and I know we’ve run over time but if people want to stay and ask questions we are welcome to take some questions if you have anything you want to follow up on anybody I can follow you welcome back to you why is that maintenance like cleaning what is green cleaning cleaning your house sweeping anybody want to address that generally it’s considered one of the main fact that is occupant health and so all using materials that don’t require toxic chemicals to clean them it could also mean detailing a building in such a way that minimizes places for a mildew except the form which also green you can also take the approach we’re actually looking at the down the Downriver back of the different painting materials and products that you use in the home so you could design at home that’s easier to clean with this basic soap and water and people are using you the really hardcore heavy duty cleaning products it could be a more green home because i was thinking more like vacuuming oh oh oh i think the story of vacuuming is the implication is that they might be comments on the way the healthiest option is to get rid of that carpet and the healthiest talking of all is especially to get rid of it in a bit I agree with you you still have to I need example back for dusting actually like your Clips my clients deliberate are gonna have a little chute built I guess this thing where you have a little chute built in your kitchen it’s a can sweep and then just kind of throw it in sleeping much easier go through I wanted to actually make my house Kosovo put them leave I want a little cool in my house thank you this is for all the panelists a lot of the designs that each you showed today for very non-traditional both inside and out and a lot of the people i talked to seem to be resisting green homes and right now because they don’t like the modern book how do you combat that that attitude and continue to be able to deliver great products to Republicans resisting modern architecture well first of all they look

at anybody the our sites about 5050 traditional designs for some modern designs modern up some good points is that if you’re looking at sort of launching these types of endeavors you gotta look at who are the early adopters and a lot of people tend to have sort of a more modern taste what we found is that the people that are most likely to go a little bit beyond with the conventional consumers doing our tend to tend to have more sort of a modern case they’re often people that are moving from an urban setting into the stark family or something like that they may be used to sort of apartment living or the loft style and they don’t like tried traditional American homes that have waste space on dining room that they’ll never use and have four bedrooms when you’re going to have to get so I think the you want the traditional houses there’s plenty of ones out there to buy but you can’t go out and right now and ask all I want a modern Greek home and go ask your real estate agent email to show you those and I think that’s what there is a sort of a focus on when you’re creating new homes actually get people a real option I would just say that I think we need to build much more traditional homes and our issues we hired architects and all architects love these boxes that you see here so I think are we have a lot of internal debates about it I’m not to know that is no hopefully no architects here take offense to this but we but where our next couple homes are we definitely started out with a lot of research and part of the reason why we do at least some low slow poems and our first few homes was because we we found a lot of people really want that iconography of a house and our actual our next couple homes we’re doing a kind of a shell a kind of house which is like a modern swish la shape it’s at least you get the shape of the gable roof and so you’ll meet conan Nantucket I think I’d simply contest the observation I really don’t see any correlation between modern or any particular architectural style and its capability responding ethically and appropriately to the environmental constraints that we have it’s just none at all really I don’t think so I’m hope I would just encourage you not to worry about it it’s really not an issue do you want to I mean it’s there’s no connection between creating a building I strain and and the architectural style I’m not trying to suggest that green homes have to be have to be bought in modern design it just seems that very often the company’s their design in green homes are designing them in a modern style there’s a lot of people out there who would love to have a green home but who have trouble finding one that I think your neighbors hold on there looking soul of the day for example that it is a distressingly large number of very boring looking ordinary now this is all very interesting but thinking about existing infrastructure smart growth and they need to kind of reinvigorate existing neighborhoods where let it has exactly 100 years old and older but has a tighter footprint than a lot of the suburban sprawl and makes a better use of infrastructure this is really interesting i’d like i’d like you to organize something that talks about and working within some of the existing urban patterns and and Mel housing stock that we have so much of in New England and yet people always say oh it’s cheaper to tear down and build something new but if you look at the whole thing about waste it’s not think it really is cheaper but it’s something that I think could use some more study I’m hoping that the April talk about landscapes will address that to some extent to because we have a terrible suburban problem and and we do have a lot of existing buildings so it’s not too we couldn’t get to that today but I know Bruce has done a lot with retrofitting existing right and he’s doing a fantastic one on Cottage Street right now and so I think there is a lot of movement in that way yeah the key word of the moment which is arising is the D banjee retrofits it seems they’re being from going by a few people recently so do the left we’ll see what happens energy retrofit deep deep it’s clumsy but that’s what we were calling it a national grid I’ve got a program out there for example we’ve got it we’ve got a discussion group

about a dozen people for the last year it’s it’s the real challenge I think a lot of people really do recognize the truth is a challenge then there’s a light paint you know what type of a lot it’s difficult that’s what the Obama administration is actually moving to make this a high priority there’s daily is out a call for proposals that specifically focus on the record to issue so it’s very exciting excuse prefer more and then I’m sorry Oh and I don’t know so much for you 1080 a lot of movements down to be but I’m going to engage new blackberry can collect a dolphin sitter but for you my short answer is we haven’t been along we haven’t been around long enough to have any good data sets what we’re doing you know Florida tests on all of our products all of our homes and we actually are trying to adopt a software that actually is used by living homes which is a kind of like an online interface where clients can see the ongoing energy use of the house at real time we haven’t done it yet because it’s sort of something just all about we just saw him somebody else is talking to conchis we should be doing that but it’s a good point yeah we normally do it we have the most data from the homes we’ve done from our custom design firm so we’ve learned a lot from those either maintain relationship with the client we’ve only been around for 18 months so you know we’re is a couple homes that we have better you know downloaded or relating day one and our construction those projected energy usage the the one thing that’s sort of impossible barrier variable to always predict is how people use them someone leaves a window open and has a neat turned all the way out of town where that differences still what I normally need about six months three years worth of data to actually see that and the energy modeling software is these days are very accurate bunch of sort of report sponsored by the Department energy but they actually build full-scale mock-ups and run those projected energy simulations and physics aren’t that complicated I just wanted to say thank you for to the organizers and for the great turnout that’s encouraging in itself I did come in late that I also in them to dovetail the idea of retrofitting and all the beautiful ideas for green building to just comes to mind over and over again as I go through the back roads that we’re losing our one light and their habitats if keep in mind that you can’t really have a green building or green community if you don’t proper nan use and I think pine street is is one of the cohousing ideals is the feel tighter than use but anyway that was my main thrust let me keep that in mind and work with our towns to have to protect our tracks do have some thank you you guys so I’m interested in how we got here and the money behind why developers built the McMansions and how you know we’ve got ourselves into this this mess that we’re in and what those what those factors will be moving forward into the future of sustainability how we can we can change the financial equation so that you know so that it does catch on a much bigger and much more national way so that all of a sudden rebuilding cleaning and doing developments and keeping our footprint that land use it at your sis turning water and all the litany of ideas that go into this actually makes sense for developers on a national scale or are there dinosaurs or the sent texts are on the way out and these these young companies are up and coming or how do we inform those companies as both how to move into the future I mean the I think the only be don’t always fit it’s basically I think its consumer driven people wanted bigger homes didn’t care about energy and the developers made money off of that and you can blame

the Toll Brothers of the throat the world and stay to their circles could be right or wrong I don’t think really productive discussion to have I think what is productive way our society works is to say how can we ascent avise people to do things that are better and i think you know much discourse there is about sort of three technologies and how exciting it is to collect water and do all these things but those really aren’t culturally changing ideas of themselves we really want to get people to change your mind about what’s important and when they only have to talk about a way to actually value so one way to we found and probably one of the most important design ideas we ever came up with is that really talk to clients like we’re not just designing your problem we’re designing your mortgage and people say well you know I would love to go green but I don’t want to spend an extra 10 or 20 grand on my house later well where you’re going to pay for the house with the giant suitcase on task or even make a mortgage on their morning so what if we yes we’re going to increase your mortgage payments by one hundred dollars months it’s going to cost me more in life but we reduce your utility bills $150 month so you can know your house has a higher price it’s actually costing you less and so it’s those types of its communicating and relaying information in a way to incentivize people make better purchases and to demand yet when they buy a new home that’s the way that will sort of shift and do that by just saying like me to you know collect rainwater BLDC get everybody involved to make it make sense for what they value about the code issue I mean that being involved in regulations public incentive Asian is only worse people take exam what’s the issue in the Kobe you said you see while you’re just an aggressive driver just say you know that everyone must have solar hot water on any new construction but that that’s a dicey subject because yeah you’re only as good as the people that are enforcing or that are actually writing and often the most innovative and thoughtful people and know the most about these technologies whether appropriately applied aren’t always the people who are get into right building codes so yes we had all of our smartest investment brightest writing the building toast and maybe code would be the right way on that particular example with governor Sarah and Utah School considering Jacqueline’s property what that means is that you’re safe Charlene licensing licensing the comparative removal of trees because a very large number of houses not appropriate because it frees the idea that we put the recommendation of a bad tree removal I can’t remember exactly how it was drafted by drop of it so I probably should know that but it was me let it out because we thought that that would be the death panel characterization about for because even though it was very well-intentioned and if you read of course the way in which various things the health legislation realize how do I see this stuff up because things get turned completely upside down and we figured that trying to facilitate solar access and several was that was a topic that time has not yet come perhaps because it involves values as men were saying that many people would challenge or misunderstand or some insidious horses would mischaracterized so I guess there’s a macro micro piece of paranoia and then but we hadn’t we felt we had to consider that sort of thing so we’re dealing with all of those kind of issues but ultimately has been said with value say that solar access is more important than preserving trees at all causes then that’ll happen this is a good example similar to that too and Boston they decided that they’re going to buy all these solar powered trash compactors so the idea is that they can pack the traffic’s like the public trash cans we hope to empty them is hop in and they’re using green energy just would have produced it later well so this hype okay although all over city we’re going to use these solar power traffic cams great idea except they put them in a city with s Paul buildings and fifty percent of them are you I walk by them all the time and through the shade and that’s a problem if you when you legislate things you have to do it really smart testing of every possible thing that how if you’re good misuse that all the seminary ratification pretty tricky and many cases you can actually cause more harm than good by something that sounds as simple as like solar powers great everything’s been so whenever I think the reality is sentences in this country we could simply solve a lot of it by raising

their fuel prices and keeping them up yeah you know then the market takes you know it takes care of it yeah I wanted to make one comment on the developer point because I think they’re the big drivers of carbon use in the country are you know transportation housing buildings and I and if you’re gonna want if you really want if this is a question about carbon emissions if you want to do something across the world you should just forget about the US and go to India we have five people right now we’re talking to in India the housing there 45 million homes short right now the housing shortage there and so if you think about you know what’s going to happen with carbon emissions you need to think about developers and you need to think about other countries but in the US I don’t think the big developers sent-text pulte when r dr horton are going to change their ways they’re going to start doing Energy Star appliances and say they’re doing something more green the only way I think you can combat that is to do developments yourself because in the in the Northeast in New England we don’t have a lot of developments but most the housing growth in the US is driven outside of the New England so I think we need to we’re very focused on looking at some opportunities to do sustainable small more tightly grouped developments in other places so and i will say there is a there was a big khatoon you know when the market fell down and a lot of developers amount of business so the good news is a lot of companies have lost share they lost you know movement the biggest companies in the US but you know the new Polti centex combination it only does six percent of the u.s. home so there’s no one big mover and shaker you just have to start there’s a macro level I think the macro levels change right now going on and people so for example we just were doing probably a small development in Vermont and the old developer that was there in 2005 was called Ginn properties skin did all the major developments in Florida all the huge golf courses all the big monster 2.5 million dollar condo things and Ken did stuff in Colorado again is basically out of business now so you know now the company that took over from Ginn is a Canadian company very awesome very green Canadian people that are out of intro West which was another big developer and this Canadian group is starting to take over all these land developments and say okay how can we do this more green more thoughtfully so I think you need to be playing in the in the realms whether it’s you in India you know or whether it’s in the big developer realms if you want to actually impact carbon and energy use in the US and I know that Ben’s company is a lot of done a lot of cool consulting with some of the bigger developers trying to move them toward you know using spray foam or you know calculating things on a monthly basis so they’re not so deeply focused on the ten thousand dollar investment they need to make now but the good news is I actually think the recession has been great for green the green movement it’s been healthy it’s like losing weight or going on a fast or something at all you know a lot of the big boys have gone on business and if you have a little resources we’ve been fairly well capitalized at blue and we’ve been able to pick up a lot of assets and a lot of different opportunities that we wouldn’t have been he would have been ignored at you know we would have been ignored by in properties or anyone who’s doing something of that scale in 2005-2006 the developers we’ve talked to you lately to their they’re building slower and they’re building more thoughtfully so they know there’s a lot of housing stock on the market but they make their money by building houses that are into sort of we are predicament so they’re starting to look at things that normally they wouldn’t just because they’re looking at that competitive advantage versus a flooded market they know if they’re going to put something new on the street that better be a little bit different than all of what a housing it’s already out there this might be rhetorical but so what the green is does the decay of old society provide us with the perfect opportunity for evolution in the future let’s do it yeah thank you for the work that you’re doing my name is Cynthia blonde outreach and education coordinator for the wisdom I solar village when she’s featured on panel fire and is wonderful exhibit and I just want to let you know that I’m here and if they have any questions we have five homes remaining I would be happy to answer them thank you hi I went to Greenville last year for the first time and I was blown away when I went in the marketplace and I asked them where’s your criteria for what can be shown in this marketplace and there is no criteria anybody can tout their wares as green and I especially with you been I think your model was really interesting

but it’s a slippery slope I mean I imagine vendors are coming out of the woodwork to you telling you that there’s stuff his latest and greatest and have you been able to create criteria or is there some criteria out there that helps you assess and identify that level of greenness it the materials yep all of our homes are at a minimum thirty percent more efficient than a mobile home but it definitely the arrangement where thirty to sixty percent enough without any sort of solar or anything like that happen so as long as we meet that baseline roll available for accrediting when it comes to actually picking our our vendors I mean the normally it hasn’t been a comment because the vendors that want to sort of the associated with us tend to be the greener company so things like our control tips companies or file based insulation to make a soy-based spray insulation foam our compass they they want to be a Philly with their physical they can feel better we won’t college they do things like vinyl siding and things like that but ultimately we don’t we suggest prawns we don’t dictate a client can switch out every product in our home that are our advertisers understand that it’s just like it’s like taking up a magazine you see an advertisement for flooring in there but doesn’t mean you have the fire what we’re doing is treating designed as type of media but that’s why again the energy modeling the energy simulation becomes the critical point for showing some sort of transparency is that you can switch out these products but if you use these products you will achieve this substantial energy savings yeah i reckin arguing the energy thing more like the volatile chemicals the offensives you know the chlorinated plastics that’s one where we’re likely comes in really handy let me shave this one the very best source on this is the environmental building years the building green building green dot org it’s a Detroit you guys use that resource remember yes they’ve been they’ve been going for 20 years they’ve established that criteria every monthly published they still published in print but they’re there they’ve got it lastly online presence there are extremely influential body of people in terms of aggregating information according to a set of criteria as their criteria but it’s also a criterion HYFR it’s a criteria most of the people over those that are for example in this event that I’ve has come from today’s Boston they are at Greenville there they are extremely influential there they’re part of the program and now it’s Alex Wilson and ultimately Alex Wilson and done I mean so there are organized out their organizations out there and this organization above all that are basically holding people speak to the fire and doing what about as successfully as anybody building green dot com and environmental building and to follow up again we don’t dictate the product so people that download our drawings have all sorts of information some people want a traditional home and they just want to be really energy-efficient and they think the rest is sort of tree-hugging knows it other people are really concerned about maybe how abusing their family they want the perfect sort of a hypoallergenic home with a amazing air quality we try to use a third-party certification things like lead as sort of guys help them sort of pick and choose how much money they want to spend and how green they want to be and anyone could say anything’s green in it like the comment about the green built there isn’t really a requirement for necessarily putting that as a label on your things so ultimately it’s about sort of just offering consumer choice trying to communicate quantifiable data when possible and that’s the most easy to do with energy and then you sort of recognized third-party standards like you suggested or like these and things like that to provide a trustworthy path to picking the things thank you I’ll try not to flash this I’m taking a class right now that addresses some of the issues that we talked about call the economics of green building and on the code issue there’s a study from the Cascadia region the Living Building Challenge I believe into it and they address some of the code issues they talk about how first of all it’s too scattered among the local municipalities so you have political issues and so forth and a lot of disconnection there and that also counters that the fact that told you I probably watch it the well let me move on to the the economic portion is that the real estate

valuation industry also is sort of catching up and evolving and starting to place value on green attributes that range from everything from energy efficiency to the other often cited things like productivity and health and well-being and there’s a lot of studies out there basically they’re demanding what they seem to be demanding based on all the studies and then reading is a they would like to see proof in empirical studies they consider a lot of the evidence to be to be anecdotal and so therefore that they’ve been slow to to place value on green attributes and buildings and you know again the code issue going back to that I can’t remember what the other thing was but if someone hits me up out in the hallway I’ll probably probably remember it thanks but I mean I think the thing we have to remember is it is an evolving condition I mean year by year the standards are getting more rigorous but we’re also realizing you know one method that can be superseded another guy another product or another method that now is recognized to have better performance so it’s a constant process but I think they’re versus referring to them their own terms tremendously capable people out there looking at these questions very hard now especially after a lot of critique of lead and the sort checklist mentality building science is really evolving very quickly now and I think that’s you’re going to see the effects of that continuously um I would love to continue on but it’s been it’s nine o’clock so i think we need to wrap it up but i won’t before you all leave i just want to announce there’s an architecture through film series being held at prune lecture hall the first one is Matt March 22nd you can see posters for it outside on your way out so start looking at film and looking at the architecture through the film medium anyway thank you so much for coming this has been such an exciting