Between the Sheets: Laura Bailey

– Hello, may name is Brian W. Foster, and thank you for joining us On this episode, I sit down for a maple bourbon sour with the lovely and talented Laura Bailey We discuss her theater background, acting and directing, voiceover at a young age, becoming a mother, and so much more on this episode of Between the Sheets Enjoy (bouncy music) Laura, cheers Maple bourbon sour – Heck yeah man – It’s delicious Hmm My mom starts drinking these about 8:00 a.m – That’s strong – It’s pretty strong, it’s good though It’s kinda like a whiskey sour but with bourbon, I don’t know (both mumbling) – How did we decide on this drink? – I used to make these for you years ago – I remember that – In New York City – New York City! – This stuff’s made in– (Laura chuckles) (bouncy music) Where did you grow up, born and raised? – Born? Born in Mississippi – Mmm – Yeah, my dad was in the Air Force – Yeah – So we traveled around a lot So I was born in Mississippi, then we moved to Oklahoma, then we moved to San Antonio, then we moved to North Texas And that was all before I was like six years old – Yeah, military family, yeah – And then once I was in North Texas, we moved, I don’t know, like five times before I was in high school – Wow – Yeah so– – Was it hard to make friends or to feel like you were grounded or had consistency? – Yeah no, it was weird because, like at one school I would be cool, and then at the next school I would be a total loser So it kinda balanced – Just because of the way you acted or? – Because I was a total loser No, just because like different schools, like different things were cool and some– – And you were in different parts of the country where different stuff– – No, this was all in North Texas So it was literally from like one school in Allen, Texas to another elementary school in Allen, Texas – Wow – And like the kids just were different – ‘Cause you have a sister? – I do – Older or younger? – She’s older She’s three years older, Jenny, she’s amazing – Did she– – Who just, who just texted me the other day, and she was like, I’ve become addicted to Critical Role – Really? – I know, and I’m like, whoa – Wow – It’s close – What was the pushing point for her to finally join the– – Well, no, we always wanted to play Dungeons and Dragons when we were kids, but we just could never get ahold of it, like just wasn’t available to us – What do you mean? – You know, like– – You didn’t know anybody that played – Yeah we didn’t know anybody that played – It would have just been the two of you – Yeah, and then, you know – Yeah – So, she ran a comic bookstore for a while, so she had kids that came in the store that would play that stuff, and she always wanted to, and she still hasn’t (bouncy music) – About what age were you when you started to get into drama and theater? Was that not till high school? – Oh gosh – Or was that younger? – No, I tried out for stuff in middle school So, how old are you in middle school? – Well, I was 19 – Yeah – So I don’t know – So you’re a bad judge of that – Yeah, I’m not– – Probably like what, like 12? Is that how old you are? – Yeah 11, 12 years old, yeah – I tried out, I was incredibly shy because we moved around a lot, you know? So I tried out for Romeo and Juliet in middle school, ’cause you know middle school should do Shakespeare – Yeah of course, accessible – And I was terrible Like I talked so quiet that the teacher couldn’t hear me like from the stage to her seat in the front row And I couldn’t talk any louder than that – Do you think your shyness, you said it comes from moving a bunch and everything It’s hard to picture you as a shy– (Laura laughs) individual Not that you’re– – But I’m still like, think about it when I’m at parties or something – Yeah, you’re pretty quiet – I’m pretty quiet – Yeah, you’re not the most outgoing, but if you strike up a conservation with you, you’re very conversational – And sure, yeah Yeah, I’m the find the dog in the corner and sit and pet the dog the entire time, yeah – But you usually end up just talking to me the entire time – Hmm – Same difference – Yeah – We both pee on the floor (Laura laughs) So how did you overcome the shyness? – You know what? So I started going to a youth group when I was a freshman – Like a church youth group? – A church youth group – Yeah, yeah, yeah – ‘Cause up until that point I was like super, like even during school lunch I wouldn’t eat in the cafeteria I was so like (groans) awkward in the cafeteria I hated finding a table so I would always just like, I was part of the science lab team, so I would eat in the science lab And one of my friends who also ate in the science lab, she was like, I have this youth group that I go to, but I don’t really know anybody, and it kinda makes me uncomfortable when I’m there So I said I would go with her so that she wouldn’t be alone, and then both of us just kind of became friends with the rest of the group, and it really brought both of our personalities out a lot

– You think that made a difference in it being easier for you to make friends? – Yeah, huge – Just getting a little bit of practice – Well because, you go to the church youth group and like, it’s the cool kids mixed in with the not so cool kids, and then you feel a little more comfortable and realize that everybody is just the same – Yeah (bouncy music) In high school, did you give it another try, acting and doing theater and stuff after you sort of came out of your shell a little bit more? – I was doing choir because you can kinda hide with that And we did a yearly musical and we were doing my Fair Lady – Oh – And so I was auditioning for it and I was a freshman, and at my school you couldn’t get a lead part if you’re a freshman – Yeah, mine too – You’re just now allowed to But the girl that was a senior that got the lead of Eliza came up to me afterwards and she was like, you should audition for theater because I think you’re really good I watched your audition, and she’s like, if I had my choice, you would be my understudy I think you’re really great And it was like, I idolized this girl I thought she was amazing, her name was Ellie And I just thought she was the best actress and the best singer, and so I went and auditioned for the next theater production that they had, and that was when I started doing theater – You got the part? – I don’t remember if I got the part but I just loved theater after that And I started taking theater classes in addition to just choir classes – When did you figure out that you liked singing? – Oh I was in choir as soon as I could, so probably like when I was 10 or 11 or something like that – You enjoyed it? It was something that– – Yeah I loved like music class and everything – Were you always singing along with – Who didn’t like music when they were a kid? I mean Disney, come on – Yeah – I would sing along with Ariel all the time – Do you like musicals more or did you like just straight acting, theater stuff, ’cause obviously you love singing but– – I do – Mixing the two of those? – I didn’t do a lot of musicals in college I did more of just straight up theater Yeah, I got shy again singing I don’t remember what point that hit, and I like convinced myself that I couldn’t actually sing And it’s taken a long time to kind of remind myself that, oh yeah I can do that again – What happened there? You just got in your own head? – Yeah, I guess I got nervous I still get nervous like whenever I have to sing for anything, when I’m on a mic and you’re in the booth, and there’s all these people out there staring at you I would get really ugh And now I just try to fake it that I feel confident, and like hopefully they believe it – Does singing feel more vulnerable to you than just acting? – Yes Oh my gosh yes – Because if you’re acting, you can hide behind the character – The other character – And their voice and their mannerisms, but if you’re singing, even in character and even in a musical, it’s really you – It is and you’re putting yourself out there, and your voice cracks, you can’t If you’re doing a play and you stumble on a line, you can play that off, but if you stumble in the song, you can’t really– – You have to start it all over – Yeah You just stop the whole production and tell them to start the song over That’s usually what you do, right? – Yeah that’s what it is It’s the least intrusive way to interrupt the– – Am I? (tapping) – It’s okay – Sorry about that – It just sounds like– – We’re making music here – You have a metronome We’re making music here now, yeah Second half of this will be you singing – Great, I can’t wait – I have a whole list of things I wanna hear you sing – Oh it’s gonna be best (bouncy music) – When then did you go, okay, this acting thing, I’m really passionate about this This is something that I wanna pursue? – Oh God – Was there a moment for you or was it just gradual? – No, there was, there was a moment There was a moment, and it’s like the most stupid moment – Tell me – Okay So, (clears throat) I was doing theater but I was sure I still wanted to be a biologist I was studying science and everything like that Science lab as I told you – Science nerd, yeah – And I was watching the, so I never watched the show, I haven’t seen an episode of Dawson’s Creek – Oh Dawson’s Creek – Yeah, I haven’t seen it – A timeless classic – Yes, but I was home and I was watching a behind-the-scenes thing, for some reason it was on TV, and Katie Holmes was being interviewed, and she was my age at the time She still is probably my age – Wait, she changed ages? – Crazy, I don’t know how that works But she was in high school and she was talking about how she auditioned for the show but she almost didn’t take the part because she was doing a play in school and she would have let her whole production at school down so, and then she just seemed so much like a normal person and she was talking about all of these things, and it was the first time that I realized, oh my God, you can actually pursue this as a career, and just be human doing it And so I turned off the program as soon as it was done, and I called up my mom and I was like, I wanna be an actress Like I never realized I could actually do that I wanna be an actress And she’s like, Laura, you can’t be an actress I’m like, I’m gonna do it! And I went to school the next day and I talked to my theater director, and she also said that you should probably finish school

before you decide you’re gonna do it, but it didn’t seem like Katie Holmes had done that That didn’t make sense to me – Were you gonna drop out? – No no no – Okay – But I just wanted to like, I was like, how do I get an agent? How do I, who do I talk to to make this happen? – You immediately wanted to pursue it – I immediately wanted to pursue it – Wow – It was just like a light switched on in my head – What were the reasons why your mom was reluctant? Was your dad reluctant too, or was it– – Oh both of them Like the first thing that I ever really pursued professionally was Funimation, right? It was when I started doing anime And my audition for that was, so the way Dallas is set up, I lived in Allen, and the audition was in Fort Worth So that’s like a four to five hour drive, and my mom was like, Laura, you don’t wanna audition for this show You don’t wanna audition for this anime thing She’s like, your commitment is to college, to school, and that’s just a distraction I was like no no, I really wanna do it So I went and auditioned and got the part, and then after a year of doing it, then my mom was like, and I had to reapply for my college classes, my mom was like, Laura, your first commitment is to Funimation (chuckles) You should really put this college thing – Totally switch – Does a total switch because she realized, oh it’s actually a profession, you can do this – Was there anything she saw in how much you enjoyed it or took to it that you think changed her mind? – I think when she realized you can get paid – Yeah, you could actually make a living – Like up until that point, especially in Allen, Texas, nobody thinks like you can actually make a career out of that – Acting – Yeah (bouncy music) – [Brian] So how old were you when you got that first Funimation part? – I had just graduated high school, so I was 18 – Wow And then you went on to do a lot of work with them – Yeah, well, I stayed with, yeah, the whole time I was in Texas, I was working at Funimation, and I just looked straight at the camera, hi (enchanting music) – Laura Bailey – Now that’s just harp music (Laura laughs) That’s all that happens It’s just I’m muted It’s just harp music that is going right now – What was I saying? – So you got that first gig at Funimation – Yes – And then went to college? – Yeah, I was doing it at the same time – At the same time – You know, it’s funny, ’cause I had a recording session for Dragon Ball Z, and Barry, oh God, what’s his name? – Allen – He was, what? – Sanders, Barry Sanders – Barry Allen actually sounded really familiar, but that’s not it, is it? – No – Anyway – That’s the Flash – He was, (chuckles) oh He was one of the executives at Funimation He was like one of the guys in charge, like that owned the company And I had a session and I didn’t go to my recording session because I had a college orientation that I had to go to – I’m worried – And so totally last minute I was like, no, I can’t make it to the session, and I went to the college orientation instead And I got a phone call from like the president of Funimation afterwards And he called me and he said, Laura, this isn’t a college class This is a production This is a professional environment and you can’t just– – Play hooky – Not show up – Yeah – If you schedule a session, you have to show up to it And that was like when I realized, oh I need to maybe stop going to school if it gets in the way So I kept missing class to go to my recording sessions, and finally my film teacher in college just said, Laura, just stop coming to class – So you never graduated college? – I didn’t She said, stop coming to class because this is what you’re coming to school for, and you’re already doing it So just go do it – Any regrets at all about that? – No! – Obviously you’ve become extremely successful by doing voiceover and acting – Right, no, I don’t – You didn’t need the rest of that college really in order to become a successful person – Right, and I totally get it for people that wanna do it I think it’s a fluke that it worked out for me ’cause I support going to school and going to college and everything like that – But how many people land first time roles sort of straight out of high school like that though? – Right, right – Thank you Katie Holmes – Thanks Katie Holmes – You did it – I mean Katie Holmes How fucking weird is that? – Have you ever met her? – No! – If you ever meet her, you have to tell her that story – She would be like, get the fuck away from me, who are you? – But most people say that. (laughs) – Maybe she wouldn’t, maybe she’s really nice I don’t know – She’s probably really nice (bouncy music) So then you end up directing some stuff for Funimation too – I did, look at you Yeah I did, I directed – How was that experience for you? – It was great – Did you take to it naturally? – Yeah, well, I directed shows that I was already working on – A part of – Yeah, so I kind of like took over directing I directed Gunslinger Girl, and I directed Code Geass I can’t remember what else I directed, some other stuff – And were you college ageish when you were already directing stuff there? – Early 20s Early 20s – Early 20s? – Yeah, I directed up until the point that I came out to California That’s when I stopped – Did you have a hard time being taken seriously? – I actually produced over at Funimation too – Yeah – I became a line producer – Produced, directed, starred – Whoa!

– Did you have trouble with anybody taking you seriously? – Seriously? – Or respecting you because you were young and doing that far? – Yeah, one of my, my first recording sessions that I was directing, I had an older gentleman that came in and he was not having it He just thought it was so dumb that I was directing him, which, I mean, I totally get it If it looked like some like little high school kid was directing me, I’d be like what are you talking about man? – Yeah – I’ve been doing this since you were in the womb – Yeah And did you win him over? – No, I’m sure I didn’t I’m sure he was still annoyed when he left – What was your favorite show that you ended up doing out of all those great Funimation? – My favorite? – Yeah What was the one that really lived with you and you think about it to this day? Because that was really the, I mean, that was the launching pad for your career, but it was also the launching pad for a lot of people in the voiceover world that you know and that are now in L.A working started out there – Yeah – Yeah – I mean it’s a great, anime is so much harder than anybody gives it credit for We call it voice acting bootcamp – Why? – Because it’s so much more work than doing like Western animation Here, you get the script and you go in a room I mean, you get the script ahead of time, you get to look at it, you get to look at your beats, and work off of other people, and it’s huge And you’re like mm-hmm – Mm-hmm – And in anime, you just are in a room by yourself and you’re watching a video and you don’t get to decide where you want the character to go You’re taking something that’s already been built and breaking it back down and then trying to put it back together – How do you find making creative choices with something that has so many – Limitations? – Limitations on it and boundaries because you have lip flaps, you have, you know – I enjoy the challenge It’s actually really fun for me to do anime because it can be so hard to give a believable performance when you’re stuck to a certain timings – Yeah – And I really enjoy that – Yeah – Yeah – Who were some of the people that you looked up to when you were starting out? – Oh gosh Well, Chris Abbott was the first person that gave me a job And he’s so welcoming and hilarious and made me so comfortable there – Still friends with him to this day – Still friends, he was in our wedding – Yeah (Laura laughs) Who else? Just Chris – Just Chris – He’s loving this right now – Yeah right, Chris Chris Chris – He just feels so validated – Colleen Clinkenbeard who was my roommate for a while And I actually got her started at Funimation, but then she just like took off directing way before me – Do you still take credit for her career? – I take complete credit for it – You should – No She’s so talented We did a play together and that’s how we met – You did a play together when you were in college? – Yeah – Oh wow – Yeah, I did a play with her That’s how we met and then she was like, wait, what do you do? Can you get me in the door? Awesome – Really? – Yeah – Once the dropout of college thing happened, and then you started or quit, whatever, or walked away – It just kind of like melted away – It was a, it was a dissolve – It really was, it was a dissolve By the end, I wasn’t taking any real classes It was only theater and like music classes, and then that sort of dissolved as well – What were you interested in outside of acting? ‘Cause you love fantasy novels, you love a lot of nerdy stuff You talked about being in the science program – That and writing – And writing – I did a lot of like creative writing and stuff – What kind of stuff did you like to write? – Like – Fanfiction? – Fanfiction/fiction – Yeah – No, just normal, I didn’t God, I did make up a fantasy story, now that I think about it – What was it about? – Oh my God – Do you have it still? – I don’t know, maybe somewhere But I realized like, I gave up on it because I realized it was turning into, it sounded like a game guide, you know, when you’re playing a computer game It’s like, walk over this direction and then look at the door Yeah, so I gave up on the book – First draft fantasies – It was terrible – Fantasy fiction – It was about a girl named Eleanor who was a princess, and she escaped It sounds a lot like Disenchanted, now that I think about it – Do you wanna sue them? – Oh my gosh No, and she comes across, like she needs a dragon or some shit – What was attractive to you about doing science at a young age and exploring that stuff? – I just thought it was amazing that we’re made up of tiny little cells and how they work and come together And it was just so crazy to me that everything was made up of the same things (bouncy music) – Sometime during those Funimation days, years, you got a call from Travis Willingham, who saw your name in the Dragon Ball Z credits, and you guys had dated briefly – We had not dated by this point – Oh by this point you hadn’t, okay

– Right At this point he was just a dude that I knew – He just knew you – Yeah – He was just a dude you knew – Yeah – So he calls you and says, hey, I saw your name on Dragon Ball Z I’m obsessed with Dragon Ball Z Can you get me a job? – Yeah – What was your response to that? – I was like yeah, yeah, I totally can – And then did you? – I just forgot I just kept forgetting – For what two years? – A long time (both laughing) I know, I realized I told this story about how I got Colleen in the door like, and then I forgot, yeah, Travis He’s so good I really should have introduced him earlier, but I didn’t know it – When he finally came in, you went, man, we could have used this guy two years ago – Shit, yeah, he’s pretty talented There were so many people, that’s the thing Like Funimation in Dallas was like, the cool thing to do, right? So any job that I worked on, there were always people there like, I can do a little kid voice I can do this voice Can you just get me in the door? And you just kind of stop paying attention to it (bouncy music) – At what point did other stuff start to come in as a result of what you were doing at Funimation enough to where you decided, okay, it’s time for me to try and move to L.A. to pursue this? – Actually, what I was doing at Funimation is not the reason I ever moved out to L.A – Okay – I was doing a lot of on-camera work outside of Funimation And I had done big stuff, a Lifetime Movie – Mm-hmm, was that the one based on the Staircase murders? – Why, yes it is Brian – Okay, I saw that movie – Super talented in that, in my like three scenes – I saw the Staircase documentary – It’s really interesting – The one from years ago Not the new one that Netflix put on But I saw that years ago and I went on a deep Google dive, reading all about what had happened and everything, and I come across the picture of you with this short weird haircut, – God, that’s funny – And there’s no way that’s Laura It was you – Yeah – What did you enjoy better? Doing the voice acting, directing, producing at Funimation, or did on-camera stuff sort of pull you in a different direction? – In Dallas, I really thought I wanted to do more on-camera At that same time, I did a film that went to Sundance that year, and it was really well-received and everything And that was all at the same time, so I was like, ah, this is my sign, I’m gonna go out to L.A and have a film career – That’s when you decided really – Yeah And then once I got to L.A., realized how much more voiceover there is here than there was in Dallas, because in Dallas, Funimation is the place to be That’s where you do it and you’d go in everyday, and it’s like an office environment, right? And here, everything records in different studios It’s constantly changing up And you don’t get the same like pigeonhole that you do like when you get to know people for years and years and years You’re with them for a decade, you kind of go, this is a role for so and so, this is a role for Laura, this is a role for Brian, where when I came out here, nobody had that anymore, it was all open again – So then you had to really audition like crazy to get the part – I had to prove it in order to get anything And it opened up the doors in my brain again to voice acting, and realized how much I loved it again – Was it hard for you finding success in Dallas in that, even if the pond was smaller, you were able to tackle a lot of different creative things at once at a super young age Was it hard to come out here and then be like the smaller fish in a huger pond? – Oh yeah, yeah One of the first jobs I ever did out here was with Liam directing me – Really? – Yeah – What was it? – (sighs) I can’t remember It was for an anime But I would probably remember if he hadn’t just like gone just voila ‘Cause he was like, he didn’t know what I could do, and he was like I’m not gonna trust you to play this part, so I’m just gonna give you like background characters And so I did that for him, and then slowly built up again – Do you think he’s so nice to you now because he’s making up for that? – Maybe It’s all from that one session (both chuckling) No – So then you end up auditioning, getting a lot of stuff and working out here a lot – It took a bit – But still, yeah How long did it take till you felt like, okay, I’m really doing this now? – Like a year before it felt like, there was, like I came out with my little pool of savings, and by the time I was working, I had run out of that – Did you do any day jobs or anything like that in between, or did you just live off that savings till you were able to act full time? – I made jewelry and sold it on Etsy – You did? – Mmhmm – What kind of jewelry? – You know, like necklaces and earrings and bracelets and a bunch of stuff (bouncy music)

– So then video games come along – Yeah – After you got to L.A., what point in your career did you start working on video games and switching over from anime to doing stuff like that? – Well, I did video games in Texas actually – Oh really that far back? – Yeah I did I started doing video games, oh gosh, it’s probably right around the same time that I started at Funimation Maybe like at 20 I did BloodRayne was my very first video – Yeah, BloodRayne – Actually no, that might be a lie Deus Ex might be my first video game – Really? – It was right around the same time But BloodRayne was my first like big theme that I did – But mocap hadn’t really become a thing at that point – No no no no Mocap was like nothing on the horizon yet – Yeah you were still doing just voiceover stuff – Yeah – Was it ever hard for you, because you started directing so young and so early on in your career, was it hard for you to work with directors? Was it like, I kinda know what I’m doing already? – No – It wasn’t hard for you to take direction? – Un-uh, no I honestly prefer acting to directing I like the freedom that you get as an actor – Is that why you don’t really do any directing anymore ’cause you just sort of prefer acting? – I do, I prefer acting I mean if the opportunity came up, I don’t know if I would say no to it, if the timing worked out But, yeah, I prefer getting to play, be in that moment (bouncy music) – At what point then in this journey does Travis circle around to, besides you waiting two years to give him a job? – Travis and I, so after that happened, we dated briefly I say briefly for like, we dated for like a year, but it was like casual, so like we would date, and then he would wait four days to call me But then– – He did admit that he handled that extremely poorly – Yeah he did – When he was here, he was very, now he knows you’re gonna watch it, so of course – Right of course – But he was very apologetic about it, yeah – It was a bad circle that both of us did because he would do that, and then by the time he called me, I would be like whatever man And then I wouldn’t call him for another four days And so we would go on a date and then it would be like two weeks before we would go on another date, and then it would happen again, ’cause we just keep doing that game with each other So yeah, we dated for a year, but it was very casual – And then when did that end up coming back around to where when he called you, you actually wanted to answer the phone? – (laughs) Right? We started talking again over I don’t know how many years went by, but we ran into each other at a convention, and it was like, oh you’re cool, okay, you’re not a dick, let’s become friends So then we were friends And so when I decided to move out to L.A., he said he would help me find a place to live, and was very kind and telling me what areas were nice and what might be better for me, and helped me look for an apartment when I came out and then– – Did you get the idea at that point that he was interested in maybe giving it a better shot? – Like he was flirting a little bit, but you know – But who doesn’t? – Right. (laughs) And then after I moved out, then we started dating again – Was he better this time around? Obviously – He was so much better this time, right? – He had his own growing up to do though, like we all end up doing – We were 20, 21, I mean, we were dicks at that age – No relationship at that age is good, yeah You don’t really have yourself figured out yet so how are you going to– – Nah Both of us were, like I said, very much in the casual dating stage – Yeah, you’ve been married seven years now – Jeez Louise Seven years – Why are you acting like that’s new information? (Brian laughs) – I just don’t think about it Seven years! Well, seven years at the end of this month – Seven years at the end of this month, yeah – Jeez – Most of it good – All of it good We don’t get in fights – Yeah, you don’t really fight that much Well, part of it is he cowers immediately when he knows– – Dragon eyes – That you’re upset Yeah he talked about the ice queen when he was here – Did he? – Yeah – No, he didn’t, did he? We’re gonna fight – No, he didn’t Let’s cut that out in the episode (Laura clicks tongue) (Brian laughs) – The ice queen stare is real – Is it? – I can tell you from knowing you all these years that there will be something I say and I will scan the room, tears of laughter across hundreds of people, but then I’ll get to you– – And I’m like – And you’ll just have this sort of look and then I leave – I’m plotting your demise in those moments – (laughs) If you catch you on the wrong day, you look like you’re plotting a lot of people’s demise – (laughs) It’s when I’m tired probably is when I look the worst Like the meanest – Are you tired all the time? – You’re a dick (both laughing) – So you guys end up working on a lot of stuff together, but you’re both voice actors and you’re both in L.A. trying to make it, and you’re trying to make a living doing it That’s what I mean by make it really,

’cause when you’re first starting out, success is based on can I just do this and pay my bills and sort of keep going? A lot of people that end up becoming a spouse or in a relationship with someone that has the same career that they do, there’s competition and there’s sometimes a lot of friction and stuff – Right – Did you guys experience any of that? – Honestly no And I think it came from in our past relationships, I dated people that were very combative and very competitive in that way And any time you would get a job, you would deal with them being angry at you or mean to you for a few days until they got over it that they hadn’t booked it which is a terrible– – It’s a jealousy– – It’s a terrible thing – Yeah – And it happens a lot when actors date actors I’m sure But I just never dealt with that with Travis, and I never felt that way for Travis Both for us were very supportive of any job that the other one got – A win for them was a win for both of you – I mean, yeah, you’re a partnership, why wouldn’t it be? (bouncy music) – Was there ever any jobs or any experiences where people were concerned about the fact that you guys were together and then working on a project together? – There were several times that they didn’t realize that we were together until we got to the job When we were both on Halo– – Yeah – [Laura] They had no idea we were together – ‘Cause you still use your better last name – Exactly – Right, yeah – So yeah, we booked the job and then we showed up together holding hands, and they were like, oh, well, congratu-, that’s great that you guys are dating We’re like, oh by the way, yeah we’re married – You’ve been married a couple years – Yeah, they had no idea And then when we worked on Second Son, I think they were a little concerned because, inFAMOUS Second Son, ’cause we were working on it with Troy, and I was, me and Troy were love interests in it which happens a lot, and then Travis was like the brother that I didn’t get along with, which was really funny So they were a little like, is this gonna be weird? Is this gonna work, and it was like– – ‘Cause you had to do a sort of semi-intimate moment with Troy, who’s like a brother to you That was like– – Yeah, we had to kiss – Yeah, I remember asking Travis his side of that entire thing, if he was sitting there in the corner just fuming – Just texting No, he stood off to the side pointing – He was pointing and laughing the whole time – I mean he literally while we were filming like, did that as a joke but it was yeah – No tongue (Laura laughs) – Ah, don’t ever. (groaning) Like after that first kiss, me and Troy like broke off and both of us took off running the opposite directions – Yeah – Yeah, just going (groaning) (Brian laughs) (bouncy music) – [Brain] Then you end up in a Naughty Dog game – Yeah – Uncharted 4 – (imitating swishing) Yeah, Uncharted 4 – What was that like? A lot of people, that’s sort of a big leap in their career to end up in a Triple-A– – I know, right? – [Brian] Game like that where you have a pretty significant part to the storyline – It was extra like, (sighs) because, because we’re such good friends with Troy and Ashley, and they had just talked so much about what it was like to work with Neil, and I was just, I wanted to be in that game so bad And again when I was auditioning, gosh when I was auditioning for The Last of Us, that was just like, the pain I felt in those auditions of just like, God, I hope I do a good job, I really really really really wanna do this Yeah, it’s hard to not let your nerves get the better of you when you’re doing that – What was the attraction there? Is a lot of it because they’re known for– – I’m sorry – It’s fine A lot of it because they’re known for telling great stories and really exploring characters, but the collaborative aspect there had to be attractive, because I know you’re somebody that wants to do heavy research and planning and figuring a character out ahead of time and throughout the entire process of working on a character – And you wanna be working with people that you can trust that they’re gonna make your performance the best that it can be And sometimes you work on a project and maybe your director isn’t somebody that you trust that well, and like, the whole time you’re going, what are they gonna do with this? Is this gonna come together okay? And I’m hashtag blessed with that a lot to get to work with different developers that really really– – They care – They care and that’s happening more and more I haven’t worked on a project in the last few years with anybody that didn’t just fully commit themselves to their project – I think there’s a lot more at stake nowadays, and I think that there’s so much competition that, and games are kind of expensive, and yeah, they know that in order to sort of carve out a space or really cut through the noise, it has to be a compelling piece of art,

and so people that are more willing to work and flesh out characters and storylines – Yeah and now, they see one game that has a compelling story and it makes them wanna do something better, and then it keeps growing from there (bouncy music) – [Brian] What kind of characters do you like to play the most? – Gosh Like, it’s really fun to play villains, but like anti-heroes I think are really fun I always love playing characters that have, like a romantic interest too though – Is it because you’re sort of a hopeless romantic at heart? – Yeah – Hopeless because of who you married, but a romantic nonetheless – I just love those stories so much I just love it and then when you get to be part of that story, you know – ‘Cause that’s the stuff you like to read Right? – Yeah! Yeah porn (Brian snickering) No, no What are we talking about? (bouncy music) – The characters that you’ve created yourself, speaking of Critical Role and the two characters that you’ve played on that show now for some time each, when you’re approaching it, ’cause it’s obviously different than when someone hands you a script and says, this is the character Even if you’re in a super collaborative and creative environment like Naughty Dog where you have a lot of say, and some of these other developers, where you end up having a lot of say about what that character is like from its inception to when you wrap on that game, there’s a lot of conversation and collaboration there In this situation, you make up someone for this home game and immediately took to the RP side Everybody that I’ve talked to about back in those days when you guys were just a home game, said that you immediately had no problem going into the RP where for a lot of people, for role playing, can be a little awkward at first, it’s weird, you’re just sitting in your normal clothes around the table, there’s no cameras Why do you think you took to that so quickly? – Because I’ve played a lot of role playing games on computer – You think that was a big part of it? – I fully think that’s why, you know? ‘Cause my favorite games were Mass Effect and Dragon Age, right? And all the King’s Quest games I mean all those things growing up, and so I was used to you walk into a scenario and these are your dialogue options, and this has this effect, right? So I just approached it like I would do in a video game and that’s why it worked – It worked great – It worked out – What was important to you about Vex? – What was important to me? Well– – What was important to you? What were her characteristics that you felt like, ah, as the thing became more serious and it was like, this is gonna be a fully fleshed out character, what were the important sort of temples for you of going like, ah I kinda want her to be, obviously you said you wanted her to be hot when you were talking about– – Obviously – Yeah, but I mean personality-wise – I wanted her to be strong and snarky and confident and hot And really that was pretty much it when we started – Were those the characteristics you identified with in characters that you played in video games or that you read and liked? – Yeah those were like the options that I would always choose Like I said, the antihero I wanted that renegade sort of option where you say something shitty but you do the right thing That’s what I wanted her to be like And I didn’t even realize like, it’s so funny, ’cause when we were first filming those opening credits, like the ones where it was like the stop thing – Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah – And I was trying to think, everyone was like come up with something that you would do for your character, like a pose or something you can do, and I was like, well, maybe I can have like a bag of coins or I can flip a coin or something, which I hadn’t even registered that she was greedy until we really started playing on the Stream, but at that point I was like, well, I do like money in the game, so maybe I’ll do something with coins And then it wasn’t until we like started playing more and more that I was like, oh shit, she’s a greedy little bitch – Interesting – But I love it – So you sort of realized that about her – That is something that yeah, that grew as we were playing more and more and more, yeah – And then you knew you wanted to have a romantic interest – No – Because that’s– – That’s what we do Yeah no, I had no idea Like, I don’t think I ever realized that you could have anything like that in a D&D game – Really? – Yeah, no, that didn’t enter my brain at all Not until Liam like did the first initiation, Vex told Keyleth he was in love with her I mean like, I was blown away that that was an option, that that was something you could do It hadn’t registered in my brain – And then after that, you were like I must have this – No, even then! I don’t know how it happened with Vex and Percy, I really don’t

– Fast forward, you’re in a bathtub – Fast forward Naked time, lots of sex – The most iconic scene of Campaign 1 – Man – Bathing with Percy – Liam was so pissed – Why? – About that moment ’cause he had this really great conversation and I fucked it all with coming up out of the bathtub – Oh yeah – Yeah – It’s not the first time – I know (both snickering) (bouncy music) – [Brian] So you play that character for years – Yeah, yeah, yeah – And you level up and you experience all of the sort of tangible characteristics and you get more spells and skills and shit like that– – Mm-hmm – That you end up getting, but how playing a character over that long amount of time, how do you still create arcs and bring out more of their personality? Doesn’t it feel like after two years, you’ve sort of explored everything you can? How do you keep it alive? – Do you feel like after two years of being you, that you’ve explored every aspect of yourself? – I felt that way around four (Laura laughs) I felt that way around four years old, and I have felt that way since – No, I feel like– – No, but that’s an interesting perspective, yeah – It’s just you’re a person, right, in the game There’s always something new That’s why if somebody says, this is out of character, that’s not something you would do, I don’t believe that, because I do spontaneous things that somebody wouldn’t expect All it does is introduce a different aspect of myself and go, oh my God, I can do that – So you leave room for growth too – Yeah – You never lock it off and say, I think this is about as far as this character is gonna go – No – ‘Cause you really don’t have a choice when you’re in a campaign where the story is outside of your hands – Exactly, but that’s the thing When the story is outside of your hands, then your only option is to react to that and grow because of that (bouncy music) – How do you think role playing and improv and all this stuff that you end up having to use as a skill on the show has grown over the last few years for you? – I mean, massively – You think quicker You have to make decisions super fast – It’s much easier to react in character when you’re, you know But, you know, that’s, I don’t know, that might be a lie – What do you mean? – Because that was always one of my favorite things anyway about theater or anything is the reaction So I know a lot of actors that just, it’s that joke of bullshit bullshit my line, bullshit bullshit my line, and they don’t ever have anything going on outside of this is my motivation and this is why I’m doing something, and they don’t think about, we’re having a conversation and you’ve gotta react to that If you do something spontaneous, I’m gonna do something to react to that It’s gonna change my performance And if it doesn’t change your performance, then you’re doing it wrong in my opinion – Is there anything– – In my opinion – No, I understand what you’re saying Is there anything or anywhere that you wanted Vex to go that you weren’t able to? Is there anything with that character that you felt was unexplored by the end of that story? – I don’t think so No, ’cause he gave us that wonderful– – Epilogue – Yeah to go, you know, where would you go with this, where would life take them? – How hard was it for you to say goodbye to that character? – (sighs) That was hard – Yeah – It was weird because there was an excitement about starting something new, but I still miss her, right? I still find myself fighting a reaction that would be more Vex than it is Jester (bouncy music) – So then, it comes time to create an all-new character What was different this time about creating that one versus the first one, because you obviously knew the game better, you had all these years of experience under your belt – I’m still shit at creating a character that is like thinking about the mechanics of the game I’m bad at that – As far as what you pick out for all of your utilities – Yeah just terrible ‘Cause I think about it in terms of RP And so I’m like, ooh yeah I’m gonna have this spell or I’m gonna like have this cool weapon, that is just shit really when you have it in the game There is like no good reason for it – But it makes sense in the RP element for the character for you, so to you, that’s a more important choice – Yes until I’m in combat and I’m like fuck – Yeah, why did I do this? – Yeah and I’m watching like Marisha like totally kicking so much ass with all of her monk skills, and I’m like what did I do– – With my candy cane? – But I have a lollipop Yeah (bouncy music) – When you talk about backstories, are you the type of actor, ’cause a lot of people, a lot of people do this, where if you don’t know the history, the genesis, the backstory of a character that someone hands you in a script,

is that something that you think about? Is it important for you as an actor to know, this was where this person came from, this is what their ideals are, this is sort of what their moral center is? Or is that something that mainly you just think about when you’re creating your own character? – No, that, I mean, depending on how long I’m gonna be with a character Like I don’t necessarily do that for everything But for the projects that you’re gonna be working on for a long time, I certainly like to know all of those things But oftentimes with an audition or something like that, you just go in and I wanna know where I’m coming from at least – That’s the context that you feel like makes you most comfortable and ready to play that character? – Yeah – But it sounds like you have fun writing a backstory for the characters that you’ve created yourself – Yeah, it’s more intimidating to do it for a character that somebody else created Like when we were working on Uncharted, and Neil, he called me on the phone and he’s like, okay let’s talk about Nadine And he’s like, what are her favorite What’s her favorite band? What’s her favorite song? What does she like to do for hobbies? And like that stuff I very rarely think about for any Honestly the only other characters I’ve ever done that for have been for this because– – For Critical Role, yeah – We make our playlists and stuff, and it’s like it’s so weird to think about what would Nadine do when she’s just sitting at home? And it opens up this whole different aspect of the character Like you realize oh you’re not just like this badass that just kicks butt, you have a life, what is that life? – What does it look like? What does it sound like? – Yeah (bouncy music) – What do you wanna know before you either sit at the table that first day or you show up on set that first day? What are the most important things for you to go like, I can figure some of this stuff out later but I want to have this? ‘Cause for a lot of actors, that question can be answered very differently What are those tenets for you? – Um, like – You don’t like to play a damsel in distress for instance – No, no, I don’t – So for you an important thing is that it not be someone that constantly has to be rescued or lean on a man or another character or et cetera et cetera to be, it’s not that you only play independent characters, but I know that’s something that’s important to you – I have this weird tendency though to read dialogue and read a scene from a perspective that it’s not a damsel in distress So like a lot of times if, which gets me in trouble, like if I’m reading a book and the character is lame or something like that, I’ll read it in my head that she’s not lame, like she’s saying all these stupid things but sarcastically – You’ll transform it in your mind – Yeah And then when I realize oh oh, they were really just a damsel in distress Here I thought they were really badass this whole time So yeah I tend to approach it from that angle anyway but it’s always a nice when the creators support that – Right – Yeah (bouncy music) – Interactive entertainment is obviously a lot different than it was 10 years ago when you moved out here – True, Brian, very true – True statement There’s a lot of conversation in the last few years about women’s roles in interactive entertainment It seems like things are shifting It seems like the conversation is changing Like there’s not a lot of characters that you find now in a leading role that are a damsel in distress – No, there’s really not – Or that fit those tropes – Yeah and there’s a concerted effort to make sure it’s not like that Like I’ll be in a session and they’ll say, what can we do? How can we change this line to make her not seem weak? We don’t want it to be that We want her to be self-reliant – Does it seem like that was not really a part of the conversation when you were first starting out? – That wasn’t even in the thought process when I first started – Yeah, is it refreshing for you as an actor that also happens to be a woman that that is progressing and it’s changing, it’s opening up better roles for you, it’s opening up better roles for a lot of other female actors? – Yeah, I mean, fingers crossed I won’t have to do the embarrassing sessions anymore that I had to do a lot– – When you were younger – When I was, you know Even not, like so I’m pretty sure I’ve told you this story before but I’m gonna say it again – Tell me again – The day that inFAMOUS First Light came out which was– – [Brian] The DLC for inFAMOUS Second Son – Yeah and I was so proud of it because Fetch was such an awesome character and such a strong character, and she took her circumstances and used them to her advantage And I was really proud of it and proud of her strength

And I had a recording session that day, and I showed up but I didn’t know what it was for And I showed up and I walked in the door and they said, okay so you’re gonna be playing hooker number three And if you could just make some noises like you know, you’re having sex The player character is gonna walk past this door and they’re gonna hear sex And I was just like – And that was you – And it was just like this moment of ah We’re not there yet, we’re not there yet – ‘Cause you’re on the same day that you’re celebrating this character that is strong and independent and against a lot of those tropes and then– – And what’s crazy is I’ve played so many voices of hookers in the past, you know, you don’t even think about it It’s in game so much – Yeah – Yeah that it had never crossed my mind in the past that oh hmm when I’m doing that, and that was the first time it went, I don’t wanna, I don’t wanna do this I still did it – But you don’t take roles like that anymore, right? – Not if they tell me what it’s gonna be And now if I walk in and they would be like, you’re playing a hooker, I’d be like am I? – Yeah – Am I? I don’t know I’m a mom, I can’t play a hooker anymore – Plot twist guys, this hooker is about to kill everyone – Right? – Yeah – I actually, that day– – Well, I have to throw away my script for Murder Hookers 3 – That day I did play disinterested hooker ’cause I refused to sound like I was having a good time – Wait they changed it to disinterested hooker? – They were like, it’s funny if you’re playing it like that We’re okay with it, ’cause I was not about to actually sound like I was having sex – Yay, I love this – Oh that feels so good – Wow, you’re like sarcastic hooker – Yeah, so that’s what I did – More, please? (Laura laughs) Wow, I hope this goes on forever – You really know what you’re doing That’s amazing – Is your name actually John? – (laughs) Yeah (bouncy music) – People have conversations a lot about tolerance and they say tolerance is the key to harmony and et cetera et cetera, being tolerant of all kinds of different types of people You’re somebody that has always chosen to transcend tolerance towards love and acceptance Where does that come from for you? If I look at your group of friends and I look at the people that you’re closest to, there are several different types of people mixed into there and you seem to be a lot more accepting of people of different types of personalities Where do you think that comes from? – Fuck, I don’t know You know, I mean my mom was always big on just empathy and making sure that we understood where other people were coming from And anytime even just walking down the street and seeing like a homeless person on the street and asking for money, it was never just this is just a person sitting on the street, like there’s a lot of people that just walk by and it was always who is that person, where did they come from, why are they doing what they do, and what can you do to help them? And that was when I was even a kid and then, you know, we all go through different things in life that make you realize different things And my sister is a lesbian and she came out very early I was, I don’t even know, I was 10 or 12 when she came out – Okay, yeah So she was a teenager – Yeah, she was a teenager And I saw that it was very hard for her, and saw what she was going through And there was never a part of me that was like she needs to change or that needs to be different, it was always why isn’t anybody else seeing that and why are people being mean to her for this or why can’t she be happy? – ‘Cause you knew her– – Why isn’t she allowed to be happy? That doesn’t make sense – Yeah because her sexuality is just a small part of what makes her her, and you saw all those other parts, so to you that sort of prejudice didn’t make sense – It doesn’t, none of it makes sense. (chuckles) I always think that racism or bigotry or anything like that is a product of environment And the only way that people are going to overcome that is exposure because anybody that’s around different cultures and different races and different sexualities, anybody that’s around that a lot realizes oh, everybody is just human You’re not gonna keep that prejudice if you are around it and you see it And if you’re in a little bubble of this environment, then maybe that’s why you still feel that way, and kids that are brought up in a racist environment, maybe that’s why all they need to do is get away from it – Is actually experience more of what’s in the world and they’ll have– – And it’s a horrible thing that if you’re in that bubble and you never see outside of that bubble,

you don’t even know It’s so sad – Was it really hard to watch your sister go through a lot of that sort of treatment, ’cause your family was accepting of it, right? – Yeah, I mean, yeah They were very quickly accepting of it but it was a shock I was never shocked by it, but you know – You’re sisters, you understood – Yeah – Yeah, yeah yeah – It was so funny when she came out, and my dad was like, it’s a phase – Oh really? – And my mom was like, I just don’t know what’s going on And I remember at like age 10 going to my mom and going, you know, Jenny’s talked about boys that were cute before Maybe she’s bi (Brian laughs) And my mom was like– – [Brian] She’s like you’re not making me feel better right now – Yeah it was just, it’s just whatever to me I was just whatever Yeah they overcame that (groans) shock I guess very quickly – Having a sister going through that in high school years – It was hard for her in high school – Yeah – Just yeah I can imagine And I was a few years younger than her but I saw friendships come and go for her because of that – Did you guys become closer because of that and because of her kinda going through that or do you guys seem to always have been closer? – Yeah, we just, it might have been the moving around, I don’t know We just always got along so well I mean we fought ’cause we were sisters like you do – Of course, you’re going to – She was always so peaceful and I was the kid that would be like, I would hold her down even though I was three years younger, and I would try to beat her up Or like we’d be in the backseat and I would be like, and then go ow, mom, Jenny is hitting me Like that’s so shitty – Did you hear that? Yeah – Yeah, that was me I was that shit head (bouncy music) Cheers – We gotta drink more – I feel like I’m drinking so much – Well – Ah – It’s good, isn’t it? – It is, it’s really good – How old do you think Ronin, your son, will be when he first says – Mama, no what? – Those magic three words to you that every mother– – Where are you gonna go with this? – That every mother wants to hear their child say which is I love football? – Oh God, it’s already on TV and he’s already watching it – Does he focus? Does it look like, is Travis watching him watch the TV when the Cowboys are on, going connection, let’s make a connection here? – No, ’cause when it, it’s on TV, Travis doesn’t see anything other than the television So like he probably doesn’t even know his son’s in the room That’s so shitty, that’s a lie – That’s a total lie – That’s a total lie (both laughing) I’m censor barring the fuck out of that – Yeah, no, that’s a total lie No, but he’s like doesn’t know what it is yet, but there’s like movement and stuff So he’ll be in his little like play mat, and you can move him any direction and he’s still like – Yeah, yeah – Trying to find the TV – He’s gonna be raised on a tablet – He’s got so many Cowboys clothes already – I know – He’s got Cowboys shoes, Cowboys hat It’s ridiculous My sister bought him a Chiefs onesie My family’s a Chiefs family – Yeah but they have to know that there’s no conversion that’s going to happen there – It’ll just be on a Chiefs day he wears the Chiefs stuff On a Cowboys day he wears the Cowboys stuff – Travis, a lot of people know this, but his back is completely covered in a giant– – Cowboys star – Cowboys star Yeah, and also an Emmitt Smith signa-, I don’t know, I was trying to think of something Cowboy-sy, and I couldn’t even– – He hasn’t been a player for 20 years – Fuck, you know (bouncy music) – You’re a mom now – I’m a mom – About nine weeks in to– – 10 weeks today bitch – 10 weeks today, really? – Yeah – How does it feel? Is it overwhelming? Is it Is it exciting? Is it all of those things? – It’s all of them, it’s all of that – Travis used the word terrifying Do you feel the same way? – No – You don’t? – No, I don’t feel terrified – [Brian] You obviously took to it quite naturally – Don’t most moms? Don’t most parents? I don’t know – I think so I think there’s still some, there’s definitely still some panic, there’s a shock for people like us that are not older, but we’re older than our parents were when they started having kids – Oh yeah – You’re set in your ways a little bit Is it a shock to the system? – Okay, that panic is real ‘Cause even when I was just getting bigger and getting bigger, it was like we are really comfortable doing what we do We’re used to, even just coming here and playing until who knows when, and when it ends, it ends, then you go home, who cares? And all of a sudden when he’s out and it’s like I can’t just play until eternity He needs to be fed, what do I do? And that’s life now, just constantly going when did he last eat?

‘Cause he’s surviving based on what I provide for him – Yeah – It’s crazy – What are some of the most important things that you want him to grow up knowing about the world? – Oh my gosh – Like what are the, ’cause you have to, obviously you guys are thinking about that stuff, you’re in that parent panic but you’re also in that I wanna raise this kid It’s a new world compared to the early ’80s– – I know – When we were born and growing up – Is it sad that I just him to know love and to want him to be happy? – That’s not sad – And to be a good person All I want is for him to be a good human And a happy human – Thankfully he has Travis as an example – Right, ’cause he’d be fucked if it was just me (both laughing) (bouncy music) – When I talked to Travis, we talked about him losing his dad at a young age – Yeah – Now he’s a father himself, you guys have this beautiful boy He has taken to it so naturally How cool is that for you to see? – It’s so wonderful He’s a really good dad already – He is – Yeah – Yeah More, you want more already? – You dick – Are you one of those people– – You’re fucking Barbara Walters– – That immediately would like? – Yeah, no – Jackass – I know Did you grow up wanting a lot of kids or did you grow up– – No – Wanting like one kid or – I always thought two just because we had two in our family, but then the whole time Travis and I have been married, it’s just kind of been like, just the one, right, probably just the one So we probably will just have the one I mean who knows in three years, I might change my mind about it – You might change your mind – Yeah – Is stability – He’s a really good dad, Brian – He’s a great dad No, that’s why I’m saying he took to it so naturally – I know – And I know that he had a great example – He did – And we talked about that, even though that was sort of cut short, he is somebody that sort of raised his younger brother as well, and like had to take care of a lot of things, so it makes sense that he would take to it naturally Is stability and consistency something that you feel like you want to have in the structure of your life? Because you guys moved around so much and things were a little, it was hard for you to make friends and everything And I know we’re in a business that’s very fluid Do you think about that? – Honestly I don’t think it hurt me having that sort of environment growing up I feel like I didn’t think anything of it when we would move from one place to another And I think it probably if anything helped me be exposed like I said to a lot of different types of people No, I mean obviously stability with us, yes I always wanna be there for him and everything but I think seeing the world is a good thing (bouncy music) – Thanks for coming on – Oh my God, are we done? We’re done – I think so I said we’ll go until the tears come – You fuck – And then I’ve gotten what I wanted out of her (Laura laughs) Thank you for joining me – Thanks Brian – I just think we should finish these though – Just chug it? – You want to? – No, I don’t want to chug it – I got so excited (Laura laughs) I got so, should I have gotten a little sippy straw? – I gotta feed the baby I gotta feed the baby after I’ve drank– – The baby’s not gonna be– – And this has gone away – White girl wasted – It’s gonna be like, he’s not gonna drink while I’m drinking (bouncy music) – Wanna know what happens when a whiskey sour and old fashioned make love? I do too, but until then, here’s how we like our maple bourbon sour First you’re gonna take your shaker, add half a cup of ice So graceful, so smooth Then pour in two ounces of bourbon After that, three quarter ounce of maple syrup Also an ounce and a half of fresh lemon juice For this one we’re gonna shake for several seconds Then, strain over an ice ball into a cocktail glass Garnish with a nice lemon wedge It’s ready to go Citrusy, sweet, and goes down smooth Enjoy Stay turned responsibly my friends Hmm, just like the nuns used to make it (bouncy music)